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So I made up some clips of the Wampler Black 65 clone I made for ptelite.  I honestly did not like this pedal at all for a long time, then one night, I went completely back to the drawing board and biased it the way I thought it SHOULD be biased, instead of the way everyone seemed to measure them out on the internets... and lo and behold, it's a frigging BEAST.

Weirdly, Wampler calls this the "black 65," and implies it's some sort of Blackface sound, and a proprietary pedal he invented.  Actually, it's the single most popular guitar amp circuit probably ever, the 5F6A Tweed Bassman/Marshall Plexi circuit, with the caps scaled up 10x and resistors scaled by 1/10th to adjust to the lower voltage.  JFETs replacing the tubes, of course.  This one's special... I biased it differently from the Wampler, so it's got a little more balls, and quite a bit more output volume.  Make no mistake though, this thing sounds like a Bassman... only you don't have to shake the room to get the grunge that we all love from the 5F6A circuit.

lovely!

clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpabzh8yTI0
5f6a.jpg
I like it.  Haven't heard clips of the Wampler, but this is good.  

I'd love to hear you do one of his Tweed 57's.  That thing is awesome sounding!  
Ironically, the Tweed 57 has a completely different layout, while the black 65 is bog-standard traditional Tweed 50's.  
I might build a Tweed 57 if someone requests it, but not just for fun, I'm interested in doing another Black 65 though, as I am falling in love with this pedal, and it's sold...
Have you listened to any demos of the Tweed 57?  It sounds KILLER.  It was going to be my next pedal a while back, but I bought about 4 things recently with "lowball" bids on ebay that went through so my gear fund is  a bit drained.  And, with the Mini Rec and Superdrive I have incredible amp OD tones of all sorts, so I'm weeding through ODs now to get rid of things that no matter how good they are, I just don't need them anymore.  I might be up for a T57 before long though.  
p.s.  I really like the look of that pedal.  pretty cool!  
DreamTheaterRules — Aug 26, 2013Have you listened to any demos of the Tweed 57?  It sounds KILLER.  It was going to be my next pedal a while back, but I bought about 4 things recently with "lowball" bids on ebay that went through so my gear fund is  a bit drained.  And, with the Mini Rec and Superdrive I have incredible amp OD tones of all sorts, so I'm weeding through ODs now to get rid of things that no matter how good they are, I just don't need them anymore.  I might be up for a T57 before long though.  


I should say. I haven't listened to the Tweed 57 it but it's got four JFET gain stages, plus an eq stage and an output buffer.  The black 65 only has two gain stages plus eq and buffer.   That's potentially a lot of gain in the tweed 57.  That's as many gain stages as the XTC pedal.
This isn't a stomp I would need, but it certainly looks great!  You do good work Charger.  :)

Now that Super Muff pedal, THAT sounds mighty tempting!
Yeah, I have several things I want Charger to build for me but need to sell some stuff first.  

Charger, I think I started a thread about the Tweed 57 a while back.  I will find clips.  You will find love.  Ironically, lately some of my most affordable pedals have become my most untouchable.  David Barber knows tone and doesn't charge a ton for great stuff!  My Gain Changer is a fixture.  My new Compact Direct Drive is a killer Marshall pedal.  At $120 per, those pedals will never leave. I have GREAT OD pedals that I just won't use, with the amps I have now.  Barber Dirty Bomb and Fulltone Plimsoul for example...
neat pedal, sounds cool.

also, great demo! no talking... captions, settings pictured, same playstyle/guitar/amp throughout... perfect, nice job!


btw, via the studio link in the description... the ship's door in the studio is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time! that's awesome.
Yeah, can't tell you how many times people have hit their heads going through that ship's door.  It's something you have to learn by doing.

On the video, yep... I will never put in five minutes of talking about features.  I still to this day watch videos where the dudes talk about pedals.  It's a video!  Play the goddam pedal/amp/guitar!
Sounds good.  Where is the compression coming from as the picked notes do have a bit of that chicken pickin' sound about them, especially noticeable at the start with everything clean.  Is that the amp doing that, the pedal or the recording process?  Not a complaint, sounds good just wondering what's generating it.
There's no compression in the chain, or in the amp, but I am playing a strat with bridge+middle, and picking with my fingers... it's pretty spanky. The tubes in the amp compress, and the JFETs in the pedal work pretty much the way tubes do, which is why a JFET layout of a tube amp sounds the way it does...
Yeah I can hear you are playing with fingers but can also hear a rise in volume between notes which sounds like compression so probably is the FET circuit as you say.