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The Peavey JSX amp is a modern-day amp that a lot of folks have given a lot of good press towards.  I thought I'd spend some time discussing the magic behind this new "myth".   I have one of these bad boys and it's a gain monster.

The basic structure of the amp is much like the MESA architecture.  All the tubes, in the amp, are biased right-center of the load line for maximum grid voltage swing.   As per Fender's topology, the tubes sport a 100K plate resistor (RP), and a 1.5K cathode resistor (RK) bypassed with 22uF capacitors - the exception to this is the 2nd gain stage and the final "driver" stage.   This makes each stage, essentially, a flat gain stage, with maximum gain involved.   There are 4 gain stages prior to the EQ section, in the "hi-gain" section.   The EQ, on this amp, is an active EQ with cut/boost functionality.  All controls at the center of their sweep = flat response from the EQ.   One 12AX7 is dedicated to just dealing with the EQ controls.

The output of the tone control circuit is fed into a final driver stage with an approximate 8kHz high-pass filter.   This puts the final "sheen" on the output and pushes the signal to the levels required by the power amp section.  

The power amp is the power amp from the Peavey XXX amplifier with two basic changes - the addition of resonance and presence controls.  

So, let's look at the amp, overall.  The input circuit has a lower input impedance (470K), in parallel with a 39pF capacitor.  This combination produces a slight rolloff (3dB) of high frequencies "warming" the guitar signal up, just a bit.   This is, truly, to attenuate RF noise entering the amp on the guitar cable (think "Spinal Tap" and the police radio incident).

Stage 1 is a flat gain stage.  The output of stage 1 is fed into the interstage coupling.  This is where the "FAT" switch exists.   When the FAT switch is out, this section forms a 720Hz (recognize that) high pass filter.   When the FAT switch is in, the section forms a 385Hz high pass filter adding a bit more "girth" to the final result.    This is then fed into either the "Crunch" or the "Ultra" gain control.   The Crunch pot is much smaller than the ULTRA pot, dropping less of the voltage across it.   This is why the gain structure changes - there's significantly less signal fed to the rest of the amp when it's in "Crunch".  

Stage 2 has a 470nF capacitor across the cathode resistor.   This "shelves" this stage at about 225Hz cleaning up some of the "mud" that could potentially show up.   Signal input, to this stage, is still low enough that distortion is just starting to rise.  Nearly all of the signal output, from the first stage, is actually "dropped", or absorbed" by the interstage coupling - nearly 31dB worth.  

Stage 2 amplifies again, pushing the signal through a 470pF/470K (720Hz) high pass filter (just like Marshall) and this is fed into stage 3 with a bit more level/volume and stage 3 is where much of the distortion begins to occur.  

Stage 3 is a flat gain stage, again.   It's output is sent to a divider network, lowering the voltage entering stage 4 which, too, is flat response.   The output of stage 4 feeds a final divider network and the channel's "Volume" control.  Across the volume control is a low pass (high bleed) filter network, centered at 328Hz.  It's pretty high impedance, as compared to the volume control, so some of the high frequencies are bled off, but not a lot of them. It has the direct effect of "softening" the relatively distorted output feeding the tone stage.

The tone stage, as per before, is an active gain stage with a low pass filter, a high pass filter and a midrange bandpass/bandcut filter.   The ranges generally overlap, to some extent, in this amp.  Satch has the midrange bandwidth extended quite a bit, from the original XXX design to provide a more "gradual" increase/decrease in mid frequencies.  The boost/cut frequencies on the Ultra and Crunch channel are slightly different.

Out of the active EQ stage, then, the amp feeds into the final gain stage which actively shelves the output above about 8kHz - emphasizing that range of frequencies over everything below it.   This adds that "sizzle" and "sparkle" to the amp channel that Satch is kind of known for.    

The power amp stage is pretty much a standard EL34/6L6 output stage (EL34 standard).   The "difference" here is the "Resonance" and "Presence" controls implemented into the feedback loop which decouple the feedback at low and high frequencies and leave the midrange alone.  This has the effect of "loosening" the output some, when the Resonance is turned up, giving it a "looser" or a "fuller" sound.    This, coupled with the active bass control, is probably the reason why that final driver stage is shelved at 8kHz.  To account for the increased mid/bass boost that you wouldn't normally get with a standard Fender tone stack.

That is, pretty much, the JSX.   Distortion is created, in this amp, in multiple successive stages with each stage contributing, overall, to the final amount of distortion.  The "Gain" control is placed between the first and second stages allowing the gain structure of the entire amp to be controlled from the front-end.   Because each stage is biased at the center of the load-line, and made to run "full-out" with the large value bypass capacitors, the distortion generated by this amp is somewhat more symmetrical than that generated by a standard Marshall, wherein much of the distortion is generated in the final stage of the amp, just before the tone stack.  This has the effect of making the JSX, potentially, a bit more "buzzy".  Peavey accounts for this by providing several "low pass" filters which bleed high frequency content off to ground, softening the sound quite a bit.

The main difference, between the Crunch and the Ultra channel resides in two things:  1) The "Gain" pot used to capture the signal from stage 1 and feed into Stage 2.  The Crunch channel "Gain" pot is 20 times smaller than the Ultra channel (50K versus 1M) - that SIGNIFICANTLY reduces the amount of signal the gain pot will capture versus how much is "absorbed" or "dropped" by the circuitry preceding it.    2) The tone stacks, on each channel, vary in terms of how much "cut" and "boost" the mid/bass controls create.   The "Ultra" is a bit "deeper" in terms of effect, but are slanted in favor of treble, whereas the Crunch channel is slightly more balanced.  

I didn't create a block diagram, on this one, but I can.   I believe I have JSX schemats for those that might be interested in having a look see at them.

Dar



very interesting.  I have one question.  Given the design, can this amp do a nice clean tone?  Other than that, it seems it could do almost anything!  
Howie;

This amp has 3 channels:  Clean, Crunch and Ultra... the clean channel can be run full out with nary a hint, or a trace, of distortion of any type.   This channel is designed, specifically, to take pedals at the front of it and provide little, if any, coloration to the tone of the pedals and/or guitar.  It's about "clean" and "transparent.

The Crunch channel is designed to be more like a Marshall with active tone controls... and ultra is designed to take that to the next level!   :-)   All-in-all, it's a very versatile and "open" amp with a HUGE range of gain/EQ voicing possibilities... plus, it takes 6L6/EL34's... and/or will run MUCH quieter with EL84's (Groove Tubes Power Reducers or THD Yellow Jackets) and sounds stellar with either of those...

Dar
Dar — Aug 29, 2008Harv;


Thanks for the heads up Dar, but his name is Howie, I am the Harv of this forum, even though it is only a stage name.

But that said I think all of what you said above firms up my opinion that the JSX is one sweet amp, although a little pricey for me at my stage of life (getting old and losing interest in making music)
Sorry about that... I'm getting old, and senile, and can't read any more.   :'(

I didn't cover the clean channel, on the JSX... I can cover that, in a bit more detail. I'm currently modeling the tone stack (very interesting) for the Crunch and Ultra Channels. I'm about done w/ the Crunch and am going to rework for the Ultra channel, probably tomorrow.

The Clean Channel follows the "Crate" model, right down to the tone stack design.  Actually, I think Peavey used this one first in the "SOLO" series of amps that came out in the early to mid-80's.   It was in the Bandit 65 that I owned... Crate picked up on it, a bit later.   I'll try to post that one, as well, along with some frequency plots from MicroCap at some point in the future.  

Dar
I caught it....but didn't want to say shit. :D

Randy
Dar — Aug 30, 2008Sorry about that... I'm getting old, and senile, and can't read any more.   :'(


Welcome to the club amigo. I am not "getting" old and senile, I "got" old and senile. So as a senior member of the over the hill gang, I welcome you to the club.
DreamTheaterRules — Aug 29, 2008very interesting.  I have one question.  Given the design, can this amp do a nice clean tone?  Other than that, it seems it could do almost anything!  


I have a JSX, and that's pretty much been my experience with it. With the tone controls being so incredibly sensitive, it can do just about anything. Another cool thing....it sounds REALLY good with singe pups at mid-gain ranges. Most folks who buy these probably don't own guitars with single coil pups (going for max distortion).
But there is a richness to the tone I've never had with previous amps when using single coil pups. Even my drummer, who is a fwe hairs short of  tone def, can tell when I've pulled the pot on my Robin to single coil mode.
My one thingy.....I wish the clean channel had a bit more low end to it. To equalize the channels out, I have had to raise the resonance to around 8, crank the low on the clean channel, and back way off the lows on the gain channels. I'm gonna call Bob at Eurotubes to see if he can come up with a tube config that will help me with this.
And another cool thingy I discovered.....The effects loop button on the foot pedal can also be used as a solo boost (volume only). The effects send and return levels on the back are rather handy....even if you don't have anything plugged into the effects loop!
I have to say, I LOVE this amp!
I've got the schematics for the JSX.  We can work through some things if you, or someone you know, is good with a soldering iron and components... we can reduce the size of the slope resistor (R23 / 100K), increase the size of the cap feeding the Bass control (C17 / 100nF), Remove C15 (100pF) which couples high frequencies across the volume control.  Increase the size of C14 (100nF), which couples the guitar signal into the amp and provides a high pass filter at that point.   All of those mods, with the exception of the last one, would improve bass response, overall, in the clean section without impacting the tone of the other channels.   That latter mod would just add a bit more "girth" to the distortion and if you're using the FAT switches, could remove that by setting them to "OFF".  

Dar