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Well, got the details of my divorce. She gets the house, kids, and all the shit in the house. Fuckin crying ass shame women automatically get fucking everything, especially in my case.

Just brought my girls home and I'm back at the vault, my apartment, and reality is fucking cold and hard as hell. Damn it's fucked up knowing I can't be a part of their everyday life, especially doing the little things you never appreciate. Even bringing my oldest to school on Mondays. That was our little fun morning. I think it's about goddamn time courts give credit where credit is due. Men aren't always a guilty piece of crap. I deserve to keep anything I want. Everything I wanted no questions asked. We have a bunch of outdated stupid ass divorce laws on the books. It's dated back to the goddamn 60's for crying out loud. Did women work in the 60"s? Hello, they do now.

Thank God, or mother nature, or whatever that their were a few natural plants grown to help with such dismal shit. ;D

My God thing is over, by the way. I just can't justify the shit at all. No use trying. I'm a damn good motherfucker any god-damed way. Plus, she went to church this week. Wonder if I could pay the Preacher to teach about what God says about adultery for few minutes to the fuckin congregation. Wonder how that would make the slut feel? ;D

I never dreamed life could be so cruel. How the fuck could a god let shit like this happen to innocent children? That would be one heartless mean fucker. And that's nothing compared to what he was said to have done in the bible.

I could write some good songs about now.
That absolutely sucks, and I'm not sure after all you've said just how that can happen.  If she's the one that cheated, how can the courts give her everything?   Did your attorney even put up a fight?  

Anyway, take care of yourself.  We're here for you.  Come here when you are down.  This is the most cheery, fun forum on the net.   ;D

Take care bro!
My attorney said with the children being so young that she would probably get the house. I kinda quit the fight and started worrying about child support. Now that I make a little money this bitch kicks me back down and I have to deal with this shit now. Basically start over again.

According to my attorney, her being a piece of shit wife has no bearing on her ability to be a good mother. I think it has everything to do with it. How can a good mother fuck around with a known married man with a 5 year old daughter himself? Says white trash if you ask me. I'm not sure how she had the best interest in mind for the children.

It's called "no fault" and it sucks because, let's be honest, 9 times out of 10 someone is at fault when a marriage falls apart.

Although, you think she's at fault for cheating... and she probably thinks you're at fault for not keeping her interested enough not to cheat. Not that I'm taking her side, I think it's a bunch of shit and you should at worst come out 50/50.
Well, I separate the 2 thoughts you had.

If I kept her interest.... yeah, and if I didn't go for weeks at a time without pussy, right? And if I didn't have to listen to bullshit, and if she would have saved money like I told her time and time again, and if she cleaned the house, fucking bunch of if's can come up right? Well, whether she kept my interest or not, I made a decision not to cheat on my children and kept my words to my wife. I could send you a text from her to me that said she considered her children while fucking this guy. (Must be hung :-[)

Here's the deal with the situation. If your not happy in your marriage, you should address your marriage and take every step to preserve it that's possible when kids are involved. Period. Your adult feelings should come last in this case and the childrens first. If counseling and every other attempt doesn't work, then get a divorce, and fuck whoever you want. Be a woman, or a man, about it. An adult.

There is no excuse for cheating on someone. Not when kids are involved especially. If you put your personal pleasure before the interest of your children, their are many serious problems and that person needs help. There is no way anyone can tell me that part of what a whore does is the innocent parties fault for not providing something to her, whatever that may be. Or him for that matter. And when you indirectly take part in putting another womans child in a negative situation at 5 years old, well, they should lose everything they have. Even if it's a woman.

Cheating on another person has nothing to do with not providing enough hugs to your wife, for example. It's in a much lower moral place. If you get pissed at your spouse for not cleaning the house, does this suddenly change things for a man. Does he have the right to go fuck someone outside the marriage because of this? Is there now excuses for being a trashy piece of shit? There were no excuses for men when they were pieces of shit.

Cheating, and blaming the innocent party just sounds ridiculous to me.  

Sorry to hear about this Hook. Life ain't fair, I have known that for a long time, I hope you can put all this behind you in short order, I got nothing to say that will be worthy of your attention, other than to say you have my best wishes, and I hope you can turn your life around and find a new thing that interests and pleases you. Good luck.
Well, things are getting better for me everyday. I'm dealin.

The way I look at it is I'm kinda to the point counseling wouldn't do any good. I guess that bad, I don't know. I have no desire to forgive someone who cheats on me, period. This is the first time for me.....to be cheated on. I feel almost relieved now. I don't want that girl in my life anymore. I'm to good for her. I feel bad for my kids, I love my girls and will continue to forever. But their mother is a piece of shit as a person. I deserve, and will have, better. It won't be hard to better up on the next woman in my life compared to a whore. ;D

Gonna start taking some bike rides and am considering a bigger bike for longer trips. Gonna play some golf. I'm gonna enjoy myself from now on. I will never again settle for anything. Maybe do some fishing. My life is half over, but I'm taking the attitude that the second half is just beginning. And it's exciting.

I refuse to let this get me down anymore. Pitty party for me over. It's time to live! And I will!! ;)
Right on man!  
Hookbender — Apr 05, 2012
I refuse to let this get me down anymore. Pitty party for me over. It's time to live! And I will!! ;)


There you go Hook. You got it.........

It hurt me big time when I divorced my first wife, but it got better every day for me. I took up running long distance preferring the physical pain to emotional pain. The day I got a divorce from that woman, it felt like someone lifted an elephant off my back, My life has been a sheer joy ever since I found wifey #2. 30 years on & I still feel joy at seeing her after a days work. There are good women all over the place. Good luck amigo, the future is the way you want to make it........
I've decided marriage it out of the question as far as my future goes. Live with, maybe, but actual marriage, no fucking way. If I want to do something in the future, I don't want to consider anything more than my little girls. For the last 13 years I've been pressured to do shit from my ex I didn't want to do. Fuck that. My goal for the second half of my life is not to get myself in any situation that makes me feel negative about what I want to do.

I'm not losing everything I have ever again. I'm stating over now, but I'll never say that again for damn sure!
I lived with the one I have now for 8 years before I married her. So I understand completely how you feel. Try it before you buy it and do so for a long time if you ever meet someone you might consider, later on when your ideas may change...
I'm forgettin about all that shit right now anyway. I wanna do some bike riding trips, lots of fishing and drinking, maybe a very little golf. I need to discover fun again and myself, my real self again. Get my shit together, so to speak. I really could care less about women right now.

I'm sure my nuts will hurt before long though, and I'll need to get back in the saddle. ;D ;D
Good luck in your endeavors. I hope it all works out for you.
Yeah I know......

I found out today The gut that was enjoying my wife has done this exactly 7 times in the past without question. The 8th being my wife.

My wife is all into this guy. Love, marriage all that stuff. She buys his shit.

She knows she's busted, agrees to a very good child support for me that just happens to be the exact amount agreed to by him.

So, I get rid of her with 2 kids and can damn near not change my lifestyle at all...... or .....do I consider my girls and get my goddamn house back and try everything in my power to get my girls with me? I want this very damn bad. Almost to the point I"ve made my mind up.

Or, do I just walk away and pay my little tad of support and let this insane woman and shit head raise my kids until they're board again and put my girls, and his, through this again? (divorce)

Think of it like its your kids. This is a very serious subject for me. So please try to think before you respond. I have the same emotional thoughts as you. Put yourself in my shoes seriously.

I'm 46. We're talking at least $200 a month more for 15 years. If I lose, I pay high ass child support and they still end up a bad situation. I lose either way.

   
Dude,

I can't imagine being in your situation.  IF I were, I'd fight for my kids with everything I had.  That's just me.   I couldn't stand the idea of anyone else raising my kids.  I'm sure if my wife and I got a divorce it would be an ugly one because we both are so crazy about our kids that we'd fight to the death for them.
Yeah, you say that now. But you and her fighting your ass off for the kids would end up hurting the kids in the long run.

I just have to accept that another man will end up raising my girls. Nothing I can do about that.

But there is something I can do about this particular guy. Apparently he has a mild drinking problem of some sort. Drinks 6 to 12 beers a day according to his wife. He's cheated on his wife, fact, 7 times. Including before his child was born, during his wife's pregnancy, and after the birth of his child.

How the fuck can I let this continue?

I'm going to get the best attorney I can find in Charlotte NC and get one more opinion on my situation. It would seem to me that if she's going to have this low life involved with my girls, it should look pretty damn bad to a judge.

One of my neighbors wife went door to door explaining what happened to every neighbor in the neighborhood. ;D this girl and my wife were pretty good friends before this happened. She's cussed the bitch out told her exactly what she thought of both of them.  ;D

How the hell did I get into this kind of mess? How trashy this is. Damn.
Sorry to hear about this Hook, but you are right, if you can get those girls away from their mom you'd stand a good chance of raising them up to be solid citizens, I am pulling for you in my mind. Good luck.
Hookbender — Apr 30, 2012Yeah, you say that now. But you and her fighting your ass off for the kids would end up hurting the kids in the long run.

I just have to accept that another man will end up raising my girls. Nothing I can do about that.

FACT....I would fight for my kids.  To the death.  You don't understand my mind set.  I get what I want.  I know us.  We'd keep the kids out of it.  But we'd both want the kids.  

I could never accept anything less than me raising my kids.
Fact. You have to have a reason, case for the court to consider.... you getting the kids. In a divorce, a woman gets the kids. You have to prove she isn't worthy of raising the kids for even a consideration to be given and then it isn't guaranteed.  The burden of proof is enormous to win custody for a man.

The fact she cheated is just a reason to get a divorce. The details of her cheating and what she did is irrelevant..... unless she did it around the kids. Otherwise it's no factor when considering the primary care giver. It's just not. Probably, if the guy she decides to spend time with is a known cheater, it really just doesn't matter..... unless it effects the kids. And you can't pre-judge the guy for doing something he hasn't yet done. Studies may show a pattern of cheating will continue. But law deals in whats happened, not what may happen, in a majority of cases. It really isn't concerned with morals either.

So, you'd hurt your kids indirectly and spend shit loads of money, and cause more tension between you and your ex to the point you can't have a conversation because you hate each other even more than before and your kids suffer for the lack of communication between you 2. And, you wouldn't get your kids. You and the kids lose and your ex has to clean up the mess.  Thats reality hero.

I think I'm answering my on questions.

I think about getting my house back too. Hell, my wife can live in an apartment. Her and the kids. My kids are young and love being able to walk out the door, go to the little playground and see their friends every time they open the door.  They don't even have to get in a car to have fun with friends. They love it. They just want love. Why should I have to lose everything I've worked for and she be rewarded for fucking the neighbor with a house with massive equity? Fuck her. Thats my goddamn house.

You got me fired up. ;D



 



Make your decision based on the kids, not her.  If she lives in an apartment, so do the kids.  But I agree with you... she doesn't deserve the house.  GET IT!  >:(
I'd recommend not going down the path you seem to be seeking.

Your kids will know if you guys can't come to an amicable divorce.  Sure, she screwed you over big time.  Sure, you want time with the kids.  Push for 50/50 shared custody.  It's not that hard to get.  But don't go down the road of hatred and emnity, scraping for every bit of property. Your kids will know.  They will sense the hate, she and her dude will talk about what an ass you are, all of this will come out.  If you can't approach her civilly your kids will learn uncivility, and they will either look forward to the anger in you or fear it.  
charger — May 02, 2012I'd recommend not going down the path you seem to be seeking.

Your kids will know if you guys can't come to an amicable divorce.  Sure, she screwed you over big time.  Sure, you want time with the kids.  Push for 50/50 shared custody.  It's not that hard to get.  But don't go down the road of hatred and emnity, scraping for every bit of property. Your kids will know.  They will sense the hate, she and her dude will talk about what an ass you are, all of this will come out.  If you can't approach her civilly your kids will learn uncivility, and they will either look forward to the anger in you or fear it.  


Yeah, your probably right 100% Charger.

The more this goes on and the more I think about it, why not try to get the house and anything else I want. Maybe not the kids because their to young.....but why not make these 2 fuckers pay for what they did to my children? What if I cheated on her? I would be ruined, get nothing, pay the highest child support possible and all that shit. So, she's a woman, and she gets rewarded with my house and everything in it, my children, 6 or 700 bucks of my money a month for 15 years, a new fuck buddy who happens to have the privilege of raising my girls, etc?

You do realize that if this goes as my ex plans, he'll move out of the house he's in and move in the one right down the street. Fuck my ex in my bed in my house and raise my kids. The house he's in is in his wife's name and he wouldn't leave so she and her 5 year old girl had to move. So her credit is shot and she's living with her parents again, his girl has a problem with him all the sudden and won't see him alone, his ex thinks she may have seen them together.

I should beat the fuck out of this guy. Get my fucking house and both of them can go to hell. This guy has cheated on his wife with other married women 7 times and got away with it. Never had to pay for his actions. I could be doing him a huge favor by breaking that habit of his. ;) Maybe even saving his life. I could be a hero. ;D
Is his ex-wife cute?
No, not really. Probably 6 pack cute. ;D
Too bad, we'd send Craig in to console her, but I think his standards won't let him go past "4 pack cute."  
If, and I doubt I'll ever do it again, I ever got married again, it would be for her mind and personality, (or lack of ;D), not looks. I want to have fun with the person I'm with for a change. ;D

Fingers would hit it if she didn't drink Budweiser. He thinks Budweiser taste like piss. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Fingers NEEDS to hit it, regardless of how many beers he has to have first.  Boy needs to relax. Lighten up.  Be fun again like the old Fingers was.  Somebody by that boy a Budwiper or 12.  
Well, Well, Well....

The wife called tonight, crying, saying she is stupid, and just wanted to talk.  :-? Her and her dude split up. Surprise, surprise.

Now what do I do?

I laughed my ass off, told her fuck you, and hung up. ;)

The world can be so cruel one minute, and so sweet the next. ;D ;D ;D  
Hookbender — May 31, 2012Well, Well, Well....

The wife called tonight, crying, saying she is stupid, and just wanted to talk.  :-? Her and her dude split up. Surprise, surprise.

Now what do I do?

I laughed my ass off, told her fuck you, and hung up. ;)

The world can be so cruel one minute, and so sweet the next. ;D ;D ;D  



Now that is poetic justice  :)


edit:  I wonder if that means that you would be able to apply for custody of the kids now that she is on her own and possibly nowhere to live, no income etc ?  Worth a shot.
Great thought. But she is a RN. Makes good money. And, she's living in my house. Apparently, the courts don't think being a whore make's you a bad mother. I don't agree. I feel like if she knowingly brings a man into my girls life that cheats on his wife at least 8 times, i do have evidence of this, and is a liar from hell, you have to be a good liar to cheat and not get busted, that makes her a bad mother. Its directly related to her ability to make good decisions and put the children first. At least they aren't married so my kids won't have to go through another divorce.

Kinda funny that the bitch now has no friends and thinks she can call me and get some sort of comfort. Insane bitch.

I knew this wouldn't last, but I thought it would last longer than this. ;D ;D
I've always found it amazing that woman can't see through a guy like that.  His past TELLS you what he is.... why would a woman fall for it?  Don't get it, but I'm guessing she's NOW starting to figure this out!  
Hookbender — May 31, 2012Well, Well, Well....

The wife called tonight, crying, saying she is stupid, and just wanted to talk.  :-? Her and her dude split up. Surprise, surprise.

Now what do I do?

I laughed my ass off, told her fuck you, and hung up. ;)

The world can be so cruel one minute, and so sweet the next. ;D ;D ;D  



yessssss. it all comes around. Don't it.
DTR

A guy that cheats is a damn good liar. After a while their sob story and all the bullshit just goes away I guess. In the girls mind. They think they will change for them. You can't change people. He cheats and will continue to. Only he can change that, or the person themselves can change. But another person won't ever change anyone. Same if a person drinks to much. No one will stop another person from drinking to much other than that person them self. Chasing the greener grass.

Now the bitch, excuse me, whore, doesn't have any friends left. They all don't want anything to do with her. She told me she was lonely and made a mistake. She'll be lonely now for sure. Now that he kicked her to the curb.

Oh well. I'm in Nashville for a show for work and I'm getting ready to hit BB Kings Bluesville tonight. Can't wait. Don't know whos there but I'll let you know later. Sure would be great to luck up and see the King play.
Man I know you are pissed, but you gotta realize your ex is not a whore... that kind of thinking if you let it permeate your brain is going to just make for poison.  Remember that you have two kids with her and you loved or liked her once... she's not a terrible person, she just made a terrible mistake.  She's paying for it now, and in the end you will probably both be happier, but if you can be civil and get along with her, your kids will sense it and they will have a better outcome.  Just my $.02...
Ever try to reason with a insane person?

I understand what your saying. Really. And it's good advice.

I've suspected, in the past, that she fucked around. Never could catch her. Now she's caught. She fucked around on her last husband as well. I know that for a fact. She has a 2 year old and a 5 year old with me and they are absolutely the most incredible 2 children I could ever hope to have. If I could create them, I wouldn't change anything.

A mistake is getting drunk and having sex with someone, or kissing someone. Having remorse and being really sorry for what you did. She isn't, until now maybe.

A straight up affair, that she said she considered the children and did it anyway, and continued to pursue a married man after I warned her that she was spending to much time with and it was gonna cause problems with his marriage ...... well, my friend, that is a whore. That isn't a mistake. If she was aware of his cheating past, which she was, and continued to see the guy and choose a low life like him over a stable family with a farther that truly does care about his children, thats a low moral having whore. And that doesn't count all the lies she's told me to fuck this guy. That isn't simply a mistake. Thats a whore.

I'm not mad, I'm simply blunt and to the point. I have 0 feelings at all for her. None, good or bad. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Simple as that.

She also knew the guy had a 5 year old girl himself. Our kids played together. She caused 3 children their right to a stable family with their mother and father. Selfish immature worthless whore.

The mistake was made by me, falling in love with this tramp and NOT knowing her past. Unfortunately, we can't choose who we fall in love with.

Being the mother of my children doesn't give her some grace or excuse for fucking up people's lives and not giving 2 shits about who she destroys in the process of getting her little needs met or whatever.

I can forgive a mistake. I will not forgive the lies, because I hate lying mother-fuckers, or the fact shes taken from my girls and his girl who are completely innocent but will have to pay for her foolish ignorance.

OK, maybe I am a little pissed. ;D ;D But not so much at the situation from my standpoint, but that from the shit she's causing my girls and his to go through. It just rips my insides out to not come home to those perfect girls of mine like a normal Dad can do. I fucking miss them.