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On the news last week, they said that it's hit 100 or more 15 times since 1980 in Cincinnati. It hit it 3 times last week, and was on it's way a 4th time when thunderstorms rolled in and cooled it down a little.
Today at 9:30 AM it was already 88! They are saying we might hit 104 today. And this is "southern Ohio heat." It is WET humid. I walked out to go to work this morning and broke a mild sweat carrying my guitar and amp to the car (maybe 40 feet from the front door!). it's that hot and humid and that was before 9:00! Last night when the sun went down at about 8:30 it was still over 90.
I don't mind working outside in this heat, and love playing ball in it, but when I'm going to work and you sweat just getting in the car to go to lunch, etc., it's kind of a hassle.
Some people don't handle it so well though, and I feel really bad for them. I saw a guy last week that looked like he was going to have a stroke just walking into Kroger. Poor guy was struggling. Reminded me of Kev. ;D
It's kinda odd but many times you guys further north actually get hit with more heat!!
We hit 106 two days in a row last week and I don't recall ever experiencing that level of "hot" before. Yeah, I know once you reach a certain point it's like "what's the difference?" I mean when you're in the upper 90's and the humidity is way up there as well, who cares about a couple more degrees one way or the other - it's simply blazing....but damn, that 106 shit was definitely a new level of brutal to me. I consider myself in stupid condition these days (life long runner but for probably 5 years straight now, 40-50 miles per week training, year round) and I never stop a run for any reason. Did so on that first 106 day. Stopped after 6 miles because I noticed my saliva was foamy and I felt whoozy, lol!! Then I started thinking about an article I read on 'heat strokes' and how even the most fit people in the world of all ages can keel over and die from them because they hit hard and quick, with virtually no warning signs. I'm no fool. I was learing first hand where the term "it's like an oven out here" came from and got the heck outta there. Glad that's currently over in my area and hope it doesn't return this season. Todays high is 92-94 with low humidity. Feels like a cool front!!
I know what you mean about being in shape not being all that matters. We played a double header two years ago and at 6:00 when we started, it was 97. There is a young guy (26 at the time) on my team who plays 5 nights a week. He hit a triple and had to call timeout and then came out of the game because he was woozy and felt bad. You can't take ANY chances on this kind of stuff.
When I play or work out in this kind of heat, I drink COLD water (and cold Poweraide). I know they say it can cause stomach cramps, but I do it because it definitely cools your body down. I don't drink it fast, but get a few gulps in every inning. I also will dump cold water on my head when I come in from the outfield.
Lots of heat records broken this summer, looks to be the hottest on record overall. Massive, wild weather fluctuations over the last few years, hard to argue we aren't looking at wilder, worse, more unpredictable, and possibly savage weather over the next few years. And yep, it's in the 70's here by the Pacific on the central coast of CA...
Exactly. Can't argue with mother nature. She's in charge. I don't want to get political, but I HATE when some of my conservative friends are quick to toss out those smarmy, sarcastic "but, but what about global warming?" jabs when we're experiencing a decent snow blast here in the south each winter, or record low temps for a few days, etc. People always jump on that when the opportunity comes....and I'm always thinking, yeah, but where are your lame, cliched sarcastic "oh, so this is global warming" comments during yet another record breaking, "hottest ever on record" SUMMER?! Those guys are awfully quiet right now, lol. Not saying one way or the other is whatever, just wish some of them would keep quiet and remember the heat we had before they try to bait their rivals with the same shitty line every season. >:(
/rant!
DreamTheaterRules — Jul 05, 2012On the news last week, they said that it's hit 100 or more 15 times since 1980 in Cincinnati. It hit it 3 times last week, and was on it's way a 4th time when thunderstorms rolled in and cooled it down a little.
Today at 9:30 AM it was already 88! They are saying we might hit 104 today. And this is "southern Ohio heat." It is WET humid. I walked out to go to work this morning and broke a mild sweat carrying my guitar and amp to the car (maybe 40 feet from the front door!). it's that hot and humid and that was before 9:00! Last night when the sun went down at about 8:30 it was still over 90.
I don't mind working outside in this heat, and love playing ball in it, but when I'm going to work and you sweat just getting in the car to go to lunch, etc., it's kind of a hassle.
Some people don't handle it so well though, and I feel really bad for them. I saw a guy last week that looked like he was going to have a stroke just walking into Kroger. Poor guy was struggling. Reminded me of Kev. ;D
So he had stains on his shorts? ;D ;D ;D
Not Kev-stains. These were just sweat. ;D
Kabala — Jul 05, 2012Exactly. Can't argue with mother nature. She's in charge. I don't want to get political, but I HATE when some of my conservative friends are quick to toss out those smarmy, sarcastic "but, but what about global warming?" jabs when we're experiencing a decent snow blast here in the south each winter, or record low temps for a few days, etc. People always jump on that when the opportunity comes....and I'm always thinking, yeah, but where are your lame, cliched sarcastic "oh, so this is global warming" comments during yet another record breaking, "hottest ever on record" SUMMER?! Those guys are awfully quiet right now, lol. Not saying one way or the other is whatever, just wish some of them would keep quiet and remember the heat we had before they try to bait their rivals with the same shitty line every season. >:(
/rant!
It's not really an argument whether it's warming, I think the majority of the argument is over whether humans cause it or contribute to it. To me it doesn't really make a difference. Warming causes not just heat, but cold, heavier rain, more insane storms, more unpredictable tornadoes... essentially, what we've been seeing for the last few years. As humans we have to figure out a way to adapt. Definitely there are going to be places in this country that are currently populated, some heavily populated, that become essentially unlivable. It's not a question of if, but when. If a town's going to flood every year at disastrous levels, it's not going to last long... if a town is going to run out of water and be parched dry like a tinderbox every summer, it's not going to last either. Adaptation is something Americans and humans are pretty good at... we just don't usually have the change forced on us this quickly...
:D
BTW - Charger is pretty much dead on. Mother Nature can still make what man produces to "cause" Global Warming look like nothing with just a couple big volcanos. The overall temperature is always changing (with or without man's involvement), but a look at hundreds of thousands of years worth of ice samples shows that the warm times are relatively few and far between (and that we've been in a warming trend before the Industrial Revolution even began). That said, the Ice Ages are usually preceded by a warming period. There's a lot of interesting Science that shows why the circulation of the Earth's oceans will stop once a certain temperature is reached and that is the biggest trigger to begin a new Ice Age.
Fuck global warming. I think a look at the obvious is in order. Like the jet stream, for example. Then folks may want to observe the wild temps we had in 1995.
Just because we have strange weather from time to time doesn't have to point to global warming. Could just mean we have strange weather right now. ;D
This heat will go soon and we'll get back to normal.
I don't know if we contribute to weather changes or effect weather in a positive or negative way or not. If you have a link that says we do, I'd like to read it. Be an interesting read.
There were times in the 60's where the weather was even worse than now. Go figure, eh? ;)
We are having a really shitty summer over here. Rain, rain and more rain. The temperature today was 60f ... I want some sunshine !
Hookbender — Jul 09, 2012Fuck global warming. I think a look at the obvious is in order. Like the jet stream, for example. Then folks may want to observe the wild temps we had in 1995.
Just because we have strange weather from time to time doesn't have to point to global warming. Could just mean we have strange weather right now. ;D
This heat will go soon and we'll get back to normal.
I don't know if we contribute to weather changes or effect weather in a positive or negative way or not. If you have a link that says we do, I'd like to read it. Be an interesting read.
Yeah, it would be super handy if anyone had written anything about global warming. I wonder where you could find such archaic information.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=global+warming
Here's a good abstract:
http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/08_1.shtml
The rise of carbon dioxide gas in our atmosphere has been measured continuously since 1958 and follows an oscillating line known as the "Keeling Curve," named after Dr. Charles David Keeling, professor at Scripps Institution of Oceanography. A renowned expert on the way carbon cycles itself on our planet, Keeling was the first to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. He demonstrated its annual fluctuations (the little squiggles in the curve) and was the first to report that global atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide were rising. The concentration of carbon dioxide is given in units of parts per million by volume, also abbreviated ppmv. (For the more scientifically inclined: ppmv is the same as what chemists call the mixing ratio of a mixed gas, in this case the ratio of carbon dioxide molecules with all other air molecules, because equal volumes of gas at equal pressure hold equal numbers of molecules) Before the industrial era, circa 1800, atmospheric CO2 concentration was between 275 and 280 ppmv for several thousand of years (that is, between 275 and 280 molecules of CO2 for every one million molecules in the air); this we know from the composition of ancient air trapped in polar ice. Carbon dioxide has risen continuously since then, and the average value when Dr. Keeling ted his measurements in 1958 was near 315 ppmv. By the year 2000 it has risen to about 367 ppmv (that is 367 molecules of CO2 for every one million molecules in the air). Thus, it is higher than pre-industrial values by one third of the pre-industrial era. (You can check the math on your calculator.)
While this increase in carbon dioxide has occurred, temperatures in the northern hemisphere have risen by between 1°F and 2°F (almost 1°C) since A.D. 1850, as recorded by measurements. The record only goes back 150 years because direct measurements before 1850 are hard to find. The ten warmest years on record have occurred since 1983, seven of them since 1990. Global temperature in 1998 was the hottest in the historical record. This amount of overall increase in temperature is approximately equal to the amount of increase that is predicted by raising the abundance of carbon dioxide by one third of pre-industrial values exactly what has happened in the last 150 years.
CraigBert — Jul 09, 2012There were times in the 60's where the weather was even worse than now. Go figure, eh? ;)
Your source, please... I think you are dead wrong on this.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/special-reports/2011-spring-extremes/index.php
The spring (March-May) of 2011, particularly April, brought extreme weather and climate events to many parts of the United States. Tornadoes, flooding, drought, and wildfires ravaged many parts of the country during the period, and each of these extremes broke long-standing records and have been compared to the 'worst such cases' in history. While similar extremes have occurred throughout modern American history, never before have they occurred in a single month. According to the Storm Prediction Center (SPC), there were 751 tornadoes during April alone, and the confirmed number of tornadoes surpassed the all-time monthly record of 542 tornadoes set in May 2003. Record rainfall along the Ohio River Valley, punctuated with snowmelt across the upper Midwest, caused record flooding along the mid and lower Mississippi River, with water levels surpassing the historic floods of 1927 and 1937. Above-normal precipitation and vegetative growth during 2010, followed by dry and windy conditions the first five months of 2011, created ideal wildfire conditions across the Southern Plains where millions of acres of land burned.
charger — Jul 10, 2012[quote author=Hookbender link=1341500585/0#11 date=1341869704]Fuck global warming. I think a look at the obvious is in order. Like the jet stream, for example. Then folks may want to observe the wild temps we had in 1995.
Just because we have strange weather from time to time doesn't have to point to global warming. Could just mean we have strange weather right now. ;D
This heat will go soon and we'll get back to normal.
I don't know if we contribute to weather changes or effect weather in a positive or negative way or not. If you have a link that says we do, I'd like to read it. Be an interesting read.
Yeah, it would be super handy if anyone had written anything about global warming. I wonder where you could find such archaic information.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=global+warming
Here's a good abstract:
http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/08_1.shtml
The rise of carbon dioxide gas in our atmosphere has been measured continuously since 1958 and follows an oscillating line known as the "Keeling Curve," named after Dr. Charles David Keeling, professor at Scripps Institution of Oceanography. A renowned expert on the way carbon cycles itself on our planet, Keeling was the first to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. He demonstrated its annual fluctuations (the little squiggles in the curve) and was the first to report that global atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide were rising. The concentration of carbon dioxide is given in units of parts per million by volume, also abbreviated ppmv. (For the more scientifically inclined: ppmv is the same as what chemists call the mixing ratio of a mixed gas, in this case the ratio of carbon dioxide molecules with all other air molecules, because equal volumes of gas at equal pressure hold equal numbers of molecules) Before the industrial era, circa 1800, atmospheric CO2 concentration was between 275 and 280 ppmv for several thousand of years (that is, between 275 and 280 molecules of CO2 for every one million molecules in the air); this we know from the composition of ancient air trapped in polar ice. Carbon dioxide has risen continuously since then, and the average value when Dr. Keeling ted his measurements in 1958 was near 315 ppmv. By the year 2000 it has risen to about 367 ppmv (that is 367 molecules of CO2 for every one million molecules in the air). Thus, it is higher than pre-industrial values by one third of the pre-industrial era. (You can check the math on your calculator.)
While this increase in carbon dioxide has occurred, temperatures in the northern hemisphere have risen by between 1°F and 2°F (almost 1°C) since A.D. 1850, as recorded by measurements. The record only goes back 150 years because direct measurements before 1850 are hard to find. The ten warmest years on record have occurred since 1983, seven of them since 1990. Global temperature in 1998 was the hottest in the historical record. This amount of overall increase in temperature is approximately equal to the amount of increase that is predicted by raising the abundance of carbon dioxide by one third of pre-industrial values exactly what has happened in the last 150 years.
"This amount of overall increase in temperature is approximately equal to the amount of increase that is predicted by raising the abundance of carbon dioxide by one third of pre-industrial values exactly what has happened in the last 150 years."
Approximately and predicted and the phrase exactly what has happened in the last 150 years seems mighty subjective to me, and suspicious. It's like they looked at what happened in the last 150 years and tried to find something that "may" or may not, be the cause. I guess that's what science does but it doesn't seem like the conclusion is conclusive, to me.
Not only that, July is typically the hottest month of the year in NC where I'm at and the temp decreases from there. (Average) So we have some extreme weather in the hottest month of the year and it's carbon dioxide and global warming? So if we have 10 hurricanes in Dec it's global warming too? And lighting causing fires is global warming? And we just lump those fires caused by people into the global warming pot?
I don't want to get into an argument, debate right now. I have to much shit on my mind to do the reading. But it just seems a little off to blame everything on global warming. I remember when they were saying stuff about the sun burning out and it becoming a ice age planet at one time or something like that. Not to mention A. Gore is a complete fucking idiot. I can't stand him.
Maybe I'm way off. Sorry. I should read before I flap my gums I guess. I should know that by now, right? ;D
What you just said was "hmm, the science works out to what they predicted it would work out too. Sounds suspicious. But I don't have time to read about it myself or do any investigation".
That is why we are fucked.
From what you do know, do you believe all this global warming stuff, or even 51% of it? I know it's a very large subject, with a lot of info and detail, but from just the little bit I've heard and read.... I just don't know if I believe all that stuff. Some makes good sense, but damn.
Maybe I'll do some reading when I get some free time and find out more about it. At least enough to have a informed opinion, so to speak.
:)
Hookbender — Jul 11, 2012From what you do know, do you believe all this global warming stuff, or even 51% of it? I know it's a very large subject, with a lot of info and detail, but from just the little bit I've heard and read.... I just don't know if I believe all that stuff. Some makes good sense, but damn.
Maybe I'll do some reading when I get some free time and find out more about it. At least enough to have a informed opinion, so to speak.
:)
Yes, I believe the earth is getting warmer. Because measurements tell us so. I also believe atmospheric carbon dioxide is increasing spectacularly. Because measurements tell us so. That's good enough for me. I'm not saying it's human activity (though it would be pretty hard to argue that 6 billion people burning stuff isn't having an effect). But lots of scientists, I'd say the overwhelming majority, are.
DreamTheaterRules — Jul 05, 2012On the news last week, they said that it's hit 100 or more 15 times since 1980 in Cincinnati.
Geez it hits 110*F all summer long here in the warmish Sonoran Desert, whats the big deal with a few over a hundred degree days? ;~)
nothing, if the air is dry. It was WET humid last week when it was that hot. I am in decent shape. Here's a reference for you. When I get on my elliptical trainer, unless I'm really hitting it with a hard level early workout, I usuallly go past 10 minutes before I even break a sweat. Last week, I opened the front door of our house and stepped out onto the porch. IN THE SHADE! Before I even closed the front door, my face was sweating. It was immediate. I worked outside for 4 hours in it on Saturday. it's not like I can't handle it. I'd play ball in it with no problem. Just saying, it was freakin hot! For many people it WAS a problem.
We are in Monsoon right now, so the humidity is up, but a dry heat is just as hot as a humid heat truthfully. The humid heat is just a little more uncomfortable. But a hundred ten plus in any situation is pretty hot. I know some folks can't stand the heat, and if you live up north it is a sure trial for some folks. I would rather put up with 3 months of the heat, than endure the 5 months of hard, damp and dingy winter I used to get back on Long Beach Island New Jersey which is where I grew up and lived until 1989, with a few years here and there out west here, and in Florida.
Pussies all of you!! hahaha
We had three days in a row of 108. then we had a day of rain and the next day was 106 and HUMID as fuck.
Almost every yard is just BROWN. We were 12 inches behind in rainfall for the year a couple of weeks ago.
Then last week it rained almost everyday and it was awesome since I didn't have to water the yard. It hasn't rained in two days now and the ground is still wet we had so much rain. I'm so happy. I've turned into that old man with the bitchin' yard and the drought was totally fucking up my yard.
At any rate....the shitty weather has inspired us to start planning for a an inground pool. We spent last week up in Chicago and took a day to hang out at Lake Michigan. 105 that day.....but the water was like mid 70's. Fucking awesome. Sand was so hot people just dropped thrie shit and didn't bother to set it up and ran immediately into the Lake to cool those burning feet.
Definitely going to get a pool. Fuck the heat.
Worth a revisit?
http://www.examiner.com/article/koch-funded-study-finds-global-warming-is-real-and-humans-are-the-cause
This study was funded by the Koch brothers... you know, the conservative asses who are throwing millions into discrediting and defaming everything they think doesn't fit their ultra-conservative ideology. They PAID to get this result. And what is the result?
The gist of it:
Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. Im now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.
Any questions?
Interesting. But with all the scientist trying to discredit global warming, is this enough to put on a believers hat?
250 years, and 2 degrees hotter. Hmmmm. But 1.5 degrees warmer over the last 50 years. That doesn't seem like much.
I don't know a lot about this, but how do they credit global warming to all the ice melting and seas rising, etc, all that stuff.....over less than a 2 degree increase in temp? Isn't that a little extreme?
Not sure if this makes me buy in to global warming. I think I'll try to find the results of the study and see if I can understand how these emissions and gases cause the planet to warm. Without that basic understanding, I don't see how I could have a opinion of any merit at all.
You just said it yourself. 2 degrees in the last 250 years... 1.5 in the last 50.
