Those of us who lived through the real rock and roll age (the 70s and 80s) know that it is a time honored tradition in rock and roll for many songs to be veiled or openly sexual in nature. The title of many of my dear friend Ted Nugents albums reads like a frat house bathroom stall wall. But I think we have an all time low in sexual references in music. You know me. I'm all about the music and have tolerated "suspect" lyrics in the past, but some things I can't be playing in my car when women, maybe family, someone from the professional community or whatever might hear the music. A good example. I like several songs by Avenged Sevenfold. but the song "Nightmare" which I really like, uses the F bomb about 25 times. I didn't by the album simply because on the CD it won't be bleeped like it is on the radio, which means in most cases I can't be driving my car listing to it and certainly not in my home. But this one takes the cake.... Thoughts? And no, I didn't listen to the song. The title enough tells me I don't need too....
http://www.revolvermag.com/news/huntress-premiere-new-song-i-want-to-fk-you-to-death-cowritten-by-lemmy-kilmister-of-motorhead.html
Not crazy about blatant profanity either. One example I was shocked to hear on the radio all the time (with poor bleepage) was
NIN - Closer.
They bleeped that one here. I just wonder the mind set of a band who either has, or is trying to make a name for itself... in either case, radio play is nil or certainly less and they are bleeping the words. And one here and there is not so bad as when it's in every verse or chorus. One of the DJ's in Cincinnati said one time "If I have to bleep more than one or two places, your song better be incredible or it's not worth the trouble to play it." I agree.
it's getting hard to be "edgy", I guess.
but, really, I don't care what the lyrics are... I only notice how the vocal sounds.
I think it would be funny to create a song called "Bleep" and let people guess what it's supposed to be.
(Except that it's ONLY the word "bleep." ;D )
ironsheep — May 17, 2013it's getting hard to be "edgy", I guess.
but, really, I don't care what the lyrics are... I only notice how the vocal sounds.
I'm with you on that. I never "listen" to lyricss I only ever listen to the overal sound and expression of the voice, which I suppose is why I like 70's rock so much as it's all about the moaning and the groaning rather than the actual words. :)
One that bugs me is Pink... My kids like her, I think her songs are good and she sings the friggin lights out, but she swears in every song. She's got a song that charted recently called "Fuckin' Perfect." And there's that so-subtle Britney Spears song from a couple years back, "If You Seek Amy" ... just say the title to yourself...
I thought NIN's "Closer" was the right place to use "fuck"... that's an intense song and it works there. Rage Against the Machine's "Killing in the Name" is another one. And of course NWA's "Fuck The Police"... all excellent usage.
But sometimes it just lacks creativity. like when I hit the hip-hop station and the rapping is nearly unintelligible for all the bleeps. What could that guy possibly be saying that requires so much profanity? It's like when I was twelve, and me and my friends had just learned to swear, and we just ran around swearing to each other all the time... except it's in a song, and that guy's got a record deal, and that's how he chooses to spend his precious recorded time. F*%&!
I have always found the bleeping ridiculous, as if you can stop your brain from filling in the gap. I don't care what words are used and censoring them to make advertisers feel ok (cater to a vocal minority) is part of my daily laugh to hypocrisy. Especially when cable channels, with no FCC requirement, censor and yet they keep "using" those words show after show. Is this that "for the children" that everything is blamed on, or just another control mechanism in the land of the free?
Legs always seems to get shit through...
You know what's worse than what's on the radio? Males, age 16 to about 25. At least I can turn OFF the radio. I've got no option when I'm walking somewhere with my kids and there's some group of idiot 19 year olds talking at full volume as if they and their friends exist in a bubble unto themselves... talking about all kinds of shit, with ludicrously disgusting language, not caring one bit who hears. No sense of decorum at all. Makes we more than a little concerned about these people rising to power...
I just don't see what the fuck you guys are bitching about here. I mean, fuck, the song was written by Lemmy. How the fuck do you not like that!? At the end of the day, all you fuckers are getting older and death is something we are inching closer to everyday. You KNOW the best way to go is have some girl fuck you to death! That's how I want to go out.
I think bleeping it is stupid. Of course I'm going to here the word in my head. It's one thing when the guy/girl on the radio says but when you bleep it out you are making ME do all the work here. I ain't getting any royalties. I want to listen to the music not play fucking Mad Libs.
NONE of that shit bothers me though. Radio? I haven't listened to one of those for at least 5 years. All I care about is bought and in my iPhone. For now I have Sirius radio.....till the free trail runs out and prefer that over the radio. No editing!
So fuck the fucking fuckers FB? :D
If I was going to die, that would be the way to go.
Dearthian: — May 23, 2013If I was going to die, that would be the way to go.
Damn straight. That's some truth right there. 8-)
CraigBert — May 22, 2013So fuck the fucking fuckers FB? :D
Fuck yeah! Fuck'em.
"Oh I can't listen to the word fuck with people in the car. That would make baby jesus cry. But I can listen to the word fuck by myself and that doesn't bother baby jesus at all."
Fuck all that.
Like that South Park movie with that song, "fuck your fucking face, uncle fucker"...
charger — May 23, 2013Like that South Park movie with that song, "fuck your fucking face, uncle fucker"...
Greatest song ever. That and "Kyle's mama is a bitch"
Out of season I know, but a good old fashioned Christmas song ;D
So, Mr. Teacher trying to progress to principle of an elementary school. What you are saying is, you'd play this over the PA at school. If not, then what makes it acceptable in my car which would be audible when I'm at work, the grocery store, or park?
My point was pretty clear. If you slip one in there every once in a while and it's great music, I'll be socially responsible and be careful it is not blasted out in the public park or grocery store parking lot. But if it's the Fbomb and it's every other sentence, you can listen to it in your car, with your kids, and anywhere your car goes, but I won't. And, since I can't listen to it whenever I want and remain a socially responsible adult, I won't waste my money on it. Plus, call me what you'd like, I have no desire to support a group who feels that here only way of being creative is to drop Fbombs 25-20 times per song.
DreamTheaterRules — May 24, 2013So, Mr. Teacher trying to progress to principle of an elementary school. What you are saying is, you'd play this over the PA at school. If not, then what makes it acceptable in my car which would be audible when I'm at work, the grocery store, or park?
My point was pretty clear. If you slip one in there every once in a while and it's great music, I'll be socially responsible and be careful it is not blasted out in the public park or grocery store parking lot. But if it's the Fbomb and it's every other sentence, you can listen to it in your car, with your kids, and anywhere your car goes, but I won't. And, since I can't listen to it whenever I want and remain a socially responsible adult, I won't waste my money on it. Plus, call me what you'd like, I have no desire to support a group who feels that here only way of being creative is to drop Fbombs 25-20 times per song.
That's the great thing about radio and music in general if you don't like it you don't have to listen to it.
I myself find Christian music to be the lamest of all music. Anything that says Jesus 25-30 times in a song is just ridiculous. It's name dropping at best. We get it. you love Jesus. I just don't want to have to here that bullshit. so I don't play it in my car ever. Even when I'm by myself I find it completely unlistenable. I would never subject the people in my car to such rhetoric either.
One man's meat is another man's pudding is another guys aching butt.
I enjoyed the song in question. not something I'd listen to all the time. But it didn't bother me at all. Fuck is just a word. It's harmless. Yes there are other ways to express yourself but fuck is the perfect word. It can be used in so many ways. Hard to get around it. :D