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recorded this clip today... background:
saw an ad for an "EP3" boost... people saying it's great. well, I have a real EP3... so wtf, test it out. jury still out, sounds neat, but the hiss is kinda annoying. tried it without tape... not worth the hiss at all - no real difference.. just usual tone + hiss. the delay does add something though.
also, EH talk lately got me to dig out my Worm pedal... hehe.
so anyway, tonally, this sounds really mid heavy and almost bad to me.. has it moments - when not played too loudly*, it sounds great. and you can even hear the walls vibrating (bonus!).. but it's so low mid heavy.. dunno, could use other ears on it. thoughts?
maybe it's the T75s? time for better speakers?
it's definitely fun to mess around with delay out in front of the amp though.. haven't done that for a while.
(PS - f'in mike fuller made the damned vibe pedal I've always wanted... mini-deja in pedal format... damnit, GAS building. FU FULLER ;))
*the guitar... not the mp3 ;)
Sheep, can't listen at work, but I will when I get home.
+1 on the new Mini Deja II. I have had the regular Deja Vibe and now have a Mini but the new version looks like the ticket.
And, what the heck does that Worm pedal do? Never hear much about it, but I don't even know what they do.
ok, couldn't wait. I listened. On my dime sized laptop speakers, I can hear the low mid thing, so you're probably right. Congrats on the wall thing though. :)
it's a tube trem/vibrato pedal. hammond/wurlitzer/leslie mod effects seem to be the inspiration. pretty cool, but not sure I'd recommend it to anyone. good for a cold-shot-ish effect, sort of. pretty noisy - can hear the thump-thump-thump of the oscillations when not playing (and effect is on).
but, it's more useful than the frequency analyzer. so it has that going for it... ;)
correction: Wiggler, not Worm... should have looked at it I guess. heh.
I like the sound to start, but I can imagine if you were pumping out some volume, it would be really bassy. At the same time it doesn't sound mushy-thick, just thick. When you start digging in at the 2:00 mark, the pedal loses me. Not as defined as I'd like to hear. What else ya got? I'm in the mood for some sheep gear clips!
Sounds interesting to me, I like it
extreme on the lows - probably make a big old mess with a bass in a mix.
But in the right context - I dunno bass free intro/outro - bass playing high up the register
It would be a good weird effect.
hmm, there -was- 25 mins of it.. but I just bounced that section and dumped it.
I'm listening to Electric Ladyland for inspiration atm... probably more tomorrow! ;) :)
yeah, the pedal kinda loses it with hefty picking... which blows cause I do that a lot. might be tweakable, dunno. thought it sounded pretty slick with softer picking though.
I dug the lo-fi aspect, especially around :55. Had a Jimmy Pagish vibe to it.
Sheep, if that pedal loses it with heavy picking, make sure you aren't hitting it too hard (don't know your effects order). Some pedals can sound better with some level boost in front of them, but some (mod effects especially) can clip internally and mush out.
ok, last jam with this pedal crap... verdict: EP3 too lo-fi - can't stand it in front of the amp, wiggler special uses only, blackfinger might stay in use - kinda liking it again. (EP3 is not in this clip - tape style delay added in logic)
http://www.ironsheep.com/mp3/6102010tones.mp3
Your last jam with pedal crap :)
Listened to both - i.e first again.
Nicely matching sounds IMO
A track introing with the first morphing into the second.
I reckon that would work.
no bad tones just bad context.
Joey D just has a bad context vibe going on ;)
well, with these pedals ;)
yeah, w/o a mix or tune it's a little hard to pin down good or bad. the smears and definition loss I'm noticing is definitely relative to what I hear when going guitar-cord-amp... which is not available in the clips. this may, unfortunately, require more clips to resolve... heh.
I believe your analysis is correct.
And I reserve the right to retract my statements
:)
Just fuck around and experiment with it.
you will still tame every pedal to sound like sheep
The music thing is the real elephant barging around in the room,
Doing something -give craig his CD - and everyone else a bunch of mp3's
wall buzz still present (grr) but this is a good example of the "no pedal" sound I'm comparing to (mentally) - may not be the best recording (effin walls) but it's much more open sounding.
Sheep, you need to "Darwinize" your room. :) Dar is doing a major studio renovation right now (big shock, I know) with rigid fiberglass sound panels, bass traps, all kinds of things.
Will check this out tonight.
ironsheep — Jun 17, 2010wall buzz still present (grr) but this is a good example of the "no pedal" sound I'm comparing to (mentally) - may not be the best recording (effin walls) but it's much more open sounding.
1:10 --> end : beautiful.
fingers — Jun 10, 2010 Doing something -give craig his CD - and everyone else a bunch of mp3's
Yes! I'm tired of listening to all those covers of John Cage's epic song
Four Minutes and Thirty Three Seconds that Howie gave me!
:D
Need to consider distributing on Vinyl as well as CD - the former makes more sense these days.
her of some geeks on that trip, pretty daft - but.
CD is dead.
so I think this will be the Clip of the Day posting thread ;)
the mix here got kinda screwed (over-compressed the drums)... but oh well. it sounds a lil too loud... ear punishing :\
different pedals... strat -> fulltone '69 -> keeley DS-1 -> Flexi. this combo gets very very close to the "what I hear in my head" lead distortion I've always wanted. seems to be within tweak range, maybe. now to practice so I can approach being able to actually PLAY what I hear in my head as well ;)
big change to the set up though - using both flexi outs today. the old cab and mics are the same and that's what's recorded here... BUT, I put a hotplate on the second out to a cab in the room with me... what a freaking difference being able to hear yourself makes. obvious, yeah... but trying to jam through the mix on monitors... bleh, wasn't really working for me. so I'm pretty stoked about this. Also, seems like the "2 or 4" ohm mode on the flexi sounds better than the "4,8 or 16" one. go figure.
in other news, I'm thinking of trading my uber for (or just buying) a very clean '65 super reverb they've got over at satan center... walk in to buy a used hotplate... almost walk out with a $2k amp (well, $1.5-1.75k... but it's satan center so they've got the max conceivable price on it)... close call! ;)
http://www.ironsheep.com/mp3/06212010tonejam.mp3
Make sure that's not a reissue... a 1965 Super Reverb going for about the same price the '65 reissues cost would be a good deal. Most times things have been changed on an amp like that, particularly the speakers. Always my favorite amp to play clean--big, shimmery sound. My buddy's got a '66. Not the best amp with pedals but there's something very pure about it.
I'm pretty sure it's not a reissue, it's in their vintage-don't-touch-me amp case - but I didn't get to the demo stage while I was there, so no extensive checking. just can't get the amp out of my mind - will probably go back for more recon this week.