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can anyone get authentic sounding midi files of tracks at all? ;)
am looking to gig with a new band, but some keyboard parts and (some) bass parts for tracks.
anyone point me in the general direction?
cheers
TMaxx
Which part do you want? The authentic sounding part or the MIDI note part? They're actually two separate components.
It starts with having decent MIDI notes, but even those will sound like crap if played with standard MIDI sounds.
You'll need to have some really good samples attached to each MIDI note to have things sound great. However, you need to remember that you can't just pass the MIDI file to someone else and expect them to hear how great it sounded on your setup (especially if you replace something like a piano sound with another sound like a violin, etc.).
I think I've collected about 3,500 MIDI files and over 166mb worth... I haven't even really finished sorting them out!
MIDI files will always sound too mechanical unless you use a decent type of software that actually uses wave files to translate MIDI notes.
I installed Bandstand a while back and that software sounded pretty cool. Not 100% real but some instruments sounded pretty realistic.
Here's a link :
http://aes.harmony-central.com/119AES/Content/Native_Instruments/PR/Bandstand.htmlThis software might be of great use for your band.
Hope this helps.
I've got software that you can use that adds a human feel to your MIDI notes. A human won't be 10ms early then 16ms late then 5ms early, they'll usually stay within a limited range and either be early all the way through or late all the way through. This software moves your MIDI notes a little to emulate a human player.
Now, if I could only remember what the name of the dang software is it would be helpful! Unfortunately, everything's packed so I can't just look easily. As soon as I remember I'll post it.
CraigBert — Aug 14, 2008Now, if I could only remember what the name of the dang software is it would be helpful! .
It's Alzheimidi.
See here:
http://Iforgeteverything.com
You can get good MIDI files for purchase, I have several that are very good, one I got from BCM on the Billy Joel Tune New York State Of Mind, I think it is still on my BT's page http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=6621 I think I called it New York Police State Mind. Just listen to how good that sounds. Of course I did some work to it and used samples and deleted some tracks, and added sounds to tracks that had different sounds. But the key to good sounding MIDI's like Craig said is to use good quality samples. Also listen to A Good Fool Is Hard To Find, that turned out pretty nice, and I posted the Audio BT over on the FNJ section.
2 Gbyte of download but it's GOOD and FREE !
http://www.yellowtools.us/cp21/cms/index.php?id=842
I've installed and played with it ! A little confusing when you start to use it but once you learn how to handle this "monster", you'll find it's a good piece of software. I use it on an athlon 32 bit running at 2,6 ghz with 2 Gb of ram and it work flawlessy on multiple instance too.
Ciao!
Marco
Fack... Maybe it's called Style Enhancer? Not positive... It was an add-on for Sonar. Something you could get from their website.
CraigBert — Aug 15, 2008Fack... Maybe it's called Style Enhancer? Not positive... It was an add-on for Sonar. Something you could get from their website.
It was style Enhancer Lite, and it worked OK truthfully, I had the best success with drum notes using that program.
I went and got the "heavy" version afterward. :)
midi files generally sound stiff and sterile in anything other than techno tight music.
not a midi thing per se - I have (on there own) sloppy real time midi recordings from kb players I know that just fit a track perfectly - and are great playing.
But midi files on the web are generally canned muzak
Sometimes when you get a good producer working a keyboard, you can pretty near live sounding with samples if he playe everything in live and does not quantize. Not all the way mind you but real close, but generally they are like a clock. tick toc, tic toc, tic, toc, tick toc, tic toc, tic, toc.
i was gonna use Reason 3 on my laptop....
that plugged into my Fast Track Pro.
i have previously taken several midi files and used Reason to make audio tracks... so i just thought that this would be a good way to do it.
here is a track i made in reason from midi...
Sounds pretty good. What the hell is the name of that tune? I've heard it bunches of times in different stuff, so I guess it's considered a classic, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
There are tons of really good samples out there to use in sample players. I had gotten Vsampler 3 with Sonar several years back and it came with a bunch of samples. I also bought some stuff from Sonic Implants that I thought were real good. They have some "Music Package" deals that covers a bunch of instruments.
I had upgraded Vsampler to the stand alone version for like $40 bucks, Now I can use it in Pro Tools, or whatever as a VST.
DM — Aug 21, 2008What the hell is the name of that tune?
Maybe - take 5 :)
Not bad but sounds pretty canned.
for comparison which ain't fair - but anyway
http://www.deezer.com/track/3415
it was done purely as an exercise to see if i could... i know that the drums couls be a little better.
but considering that they are part of the in-built orchestral sounds and i used straight off the install it ain't that bad.
with the luxury of a couple of days and a good bank of samples could do better. the touch and breath are pretty good though on the piano and sax respectively
TMaxx