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Hey guys
Peter's new album releases in about two weeks.
Great album, instrumental, lots of cool melodic soloing, I really dig it.
Here's a video of one song on the album, he's doing "in the studio" videos for most of the songs.
Peter's playing guitars, bass, keys/synths, on drums South African legend Larry Rose.
He used his Tokai LS98F throughout the album, he doesn't even play his Gibsons any more.
In the video he also uses his Mexican Strat.
Guitar tones are all his TSL602 mic'd with an SM57.
I listened to the album twice the other night, and watched the video before it was loaded onto Youtube.
It's amazing how Youtube stuffs up the audio quality and video sync.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZ9hEGJv0E&feature=player_embedded
Man the only thing that song needs is more cowbell.
Not sure what that means? :-/
nice vid! well done, cool tune!
but... I saw mic'd amps and no KPA! <shock/horror> ;) ;D
Lance — Mar 05, 2013Not sure what that means? :-/
Are you serious??? From the famous Saturday Night Live skit below:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbell
CraigBert — Mar 06, 2013[quote author=Lance link=1362490592/0#2 date=1362523268]Not sure what that means? :-/
Are you serious??? From the famous Saturday Night Live skit below:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbellYUP. He will watch. HE will understand.
CraigBert — Mar 06, 2013[quote author=Lance link=1362490592/0#2 date=1362523268]Not sure what that means? :-/
Are you serious??? From the famous Saturday Night Live skit below:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbellDude, I'm from South Africa, I only watch Dexter, Homeland & Californication. ;D
ironsheep — Mar 05, 2013nice vid! well done, cool tune!
but... I saw mic'd amps and no KPA! <shock/horror> ;) ;D
lol, true. :)
Peter's dying to get a KPA, but it costs a ton of money down here in SA.
He had budgeted to get one and then his mom had some serious health problems that whacked his finances.
In the last few months he's been seriously busy and so have I, for some reason I just never got round to giving him the KPA to use for a few weeks...my bad...he would have used it.
Interesting...yesterday I realised that one of the songs on the new album was actually the very first Tokai/Kemper demo we did when I first got my KPA demo model.
It's not really a true comparison because when we did the KPA clip we just chose 2 stock Kemper Profiles because we were both in a rush to get it done, and he took a lot more time and effort when he did the song for the album.
Also, the album version has a real drummer, the KPA version was programmed drums.
But interesting to listen to both just for fun.
KPA demo.
https://soundcloud.com/temper59/kemper-profiling-amp-foxglove
Album version.
https://soundcloud.com/peter-john-hanmer/blues-parade
Lance — Mar 06, 2013[quote author=CraigBert link=1362490592/0#4 date=1362536698][quote author=Lance link=1362490592/0#2 date=1362523268]Not sure what that means? :-/
Are you serious??? From the famous Saturday Night Live skit below:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbellDude, I'm from South Africa, I only watch Dexter, Homeland & Californication. ;D
The skit was decades ago - I thought every musician (and wanna-be) on the planet knew about this. :)
Fenderbender — Mar 06, 2013[quote author=CraigBert link=1362490592/0#4 date=1362536698][quote author=Lance link=1362490592/0#2 date=1362523268]Not sure what that means? :-/
Are you serious??? From the famous Saturday Night Live skit below:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbellYUP. He will watch. HE will understand.
YUP, I watched, brilliant, I understand! ;D...first time I've ever watched it.
that is interesting.
I like the sound of the KPA better in all respects but one - I can hear that digital pick noise I hate. why can't someone get that figured out? seems like every modeler I've heard exhibits it. some players hide it well with light pick attack but people who dig in every now and then (or all the time)... bam, there it is. pick attack on my amps doesn't work in a linear way like that - it's inverse to signal, ie, low volume from the guitar and I can hear the pick all too well - full volume from the guitar and I barely notice it. like, as the volume goes up, the pick attack is getting ducked with a limiter. modelers don't seem to do that part of the model well, yet - they should be able to. maybe if someone with a heavy picking style did a profile on a KPA, it would come out right? drives me to distraction.
a shame, the rest of the KPA tone is really exceptional - balanced, smooth, meaty, sits well, sounds great.
ironsheep — Mar 06, 2013that is interesting.
I like the sound of the KPA better in all respects but one - I can hear that digital pick noise I hate. why can't someone get that figured out? seems like every modeler I've heard exhibits it. some players hide it well with light pick attack but people who dig in every now and then (or all the time)... bam, there it is. pick attack on my amps doesn't work in a linear way like that - it's inverse to signal, ie, low volume from the guitar and I can hear the pick all too well - full volume from the guitar and I barely notice it. like, as the volume goes up, the pick attack is getting ducked with a limiter. modelers don't seem to do that part of the model well, yet - they should be able to. maybe if someone with a heavy picking style did a profile on a KPA, it would come out right? drives me to distraction.
a shame, the rest of the KPA tone is really exceptional - balanced, smooth, meaty, sits well, sounds great.
There's an interesting control on the KPA, it's called "Pick attack".
It defaults to zero on all Profiles, but it can be raised or lowered.
Lower it and it does just what you mention, you stop hearing the pick hitting the strings.
I know exactly what you're talking about, it's even more annoying through headphones.
I wouldn't say it's 100% eliminated in the Kemper, but it's interesting that Mr Kemper had the insight to include a "Pick attack" parameter...I'd never seen one on my previous modellers.
cool - if the pick attack control scaled dynamically (and non-linear) with input volume... might be the missing link.
I like the Kemper version more for two reasons... one, I like what he plays more, and two, I like a JCM about a thousand times more than a TSL. I've never liked the tsl/dsl series amps, and I may never like them. The recording's good on both, though it's a little more out front on the Kemper, for lack of a better term, it's very "direct".
Pick attack removal = aggressive compressor with very fast attack and fast release. Lots of amps have shitloads of pick attack--check out the way a Fender blackface amp responds to picking at low to medium volumes. Hella bright, lots of pick attack. Early tweeds, supros don't (ever hear Jimmy Page have pick attack issues?). Difference comes down to the phase inverter, which is a messy jumble of harmonics on a tweed/supro. The blackface amps are designed not to distort, or to have more clean headroom--Fender changed the phase splitter just to get more clean headroom--even though it sounds crazy now, no one would design "more clean" into an amp nowadays, but I guess in the late 60's that was what people wanted, they were tired of those tweed amps grunging out and crunching up and spitting and snarling when they turned them up.
Interesting enough, the cleaner long-tail phase inverter stuck around and people have counterbalanced that cleaner feedback design with more preamp gain--not realizing that there's a potent source of really juicy distortion untapped in the phase splitter design--my buddy Joe Bryan has now built up 3 amps that instead use an original phase splitter--a paraphase splitter with master volume... it's the greatest thing since the invention of the phase splitter, I think...
amp pick attack sounds like... pick attack. modeler pick attack sounds divorced from the rest of the signal... like it was left uneffected and blended back into the fully processed sound at the end. just sounds weird and unnatural to me. from the clips I've heard of these current modelers, it's not anywhere near as bad as it was on the old pods, but still lingering in there.
well, you're preaching to the choir here... I am a massive fan of tube amps, especially low wattage tube amps, and I don't think I'm going to be going back to modelers anytime soon...
Thing is, I hear that "pick noise" on every tube amp I play, especially Fenders.
It's kind of like a compression, seems to come from the mids, if I turn the mid knob on the amp really down then it gets a lot better, but without the mids the 'beef' of the tone is lost.
However, the tube amp 'pick noise' I'm talking about may not be the same one (digital) that you guys are referring to...but it does bug me with tube amps as well.
I play more than half the time with my fingers... no pick noise...
I hybrid pick like a motherfucker. Little bit of pick noise. hehehehehe
I can practise hybrid picking for the next 20 years and I still won't be able to do it...my fingers refuse to co-operate with my brain. ::)
If I could learn to play electric guitar all over again, all I'd want to do is hybrid pick, or pick just with my fingers, and play blues all day long...fuck everything else.
When I first started playing, I saw a buddy do that hybrid stuff and there was a certain creativity that it just inserted into my brain. I liked the possibilities because I just suck at straight picking. Hybrid picking just made sense to my brain. It's like finger taping. That shit just made sense. I can't play fast but when I do...I'm generally tapping like a mofo.
hybrid... as in, pick one string while using a finger to get another at the same time (ala SRV)... using pick and fingers at different times for dynamic purposes (ZZ or VH with the curled under the finger pick)... or that freaky EJ koto stuff? or all/any of that? not sure what kind of hybrid is going on here. heh.
Hybrid picking = buzzword of the time. Or, todays version of tapping. Or, todays version of sweeping. Todays version of whatever, lol....it's the technique that everyone does now is what it is. ;)
ah! one of those "a name for something you've been doing forever without a name" things... roger.
Bingo! Only now it's cool to say it. ;)
FWIW, I've been trying to do it since seeing Mark Knopfler vids from the early 80s, well, to me that was hybrid picking anyway.
edit: sorry for the derail, Lance.
ironsheep — Mar 08, 2013hybrid... as in, pick one string while using a finger to get another at the same time (ala SRV)... using pick and fingers at different times for dynamic purposes (ZZ or VH with the curled under the finger pick)... or that freaky EJ koto stuff? or all/any of that? not sure what kind of hybrid is going on here. heh.
In general when I hybrid pick I use the pick on mostly the lowest string I'm going to pick and the middle, ring, and sometimes pinky to pick other notes. I like to break up chords a lot and not just go up and down. I can actually skip pick pretty decent and move notes around nicely that way but hybrid picking is easier.
Sometimes I'm grabbing one and picking one. Sometimes I'm alternating between picking one and grabbing 1, 2, or 3 strings. Many times I'm doing something of a Lyndsey Buckingham type thing. Hybrid is really like finger picking but you trade your pointer and thumb for a pick.
I can't do that EJ koto shit at all. I do more like a Danny Gatton whistler thing....but that's not hybrid picking it's playing harmonics. Some guys tape them ala Vita Bratta or EVH. What I do is use my pointer finger to touch the node of the string and hold the pick with my thumb and middle. I pick behind the pointer finger and you get these really cool harmonics anywhere. It's a lot like barely touching the strings with your fret hand and sliding it up and down the neck while picking and you get these cool harmonics in bunches.
Think country players when you think of hybrid pickers. Pick and fingers. Some guys do it with a thumb pick and fingers. Can be called chicken picking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn97BGZY-nk
Kabala — Mar 08, 2013Bingo! Only now it's cool to say it. ;)
FWIW, I've been trying to do it since seeing Mark Knopfler vids from the early 80s, well, to me that was hybrid picking anyway.
edit: sorry for the derail, Lance.
I'm not sure Knopfler hybrid picks, I'm pretty sure he just finger picks. Hybrid picking's rise in popularity is directly proportional to the insane popularity of country and bluegrass...
Here's some prime hybrid picking from a guy whose music I don't dig, but whose chops I admire greatly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxqXyWbwUHk
^^ That was cool - and his tone was great. (=
Fully agree, can't stand that music, or for that matter, all those dime-a-dozen artists, they're like cookie cutter musicians to me, from their look to their material, just all strike me as clones of one another. Guess that's the nature of things. Cool tones though.
Dr. Z Wreck... should be pretty cool tones!
Ok, back to Peter. Have to snag this album. Good stuff.