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Jon_G#1 · Jan 09, 2010 21:21 UTC
I just tried an experiment of running the effects send of my peavey c30 into the POD X3.
I switched off all amp sims but used the cabinet sims. This makes a very nice dynamic playing experience via the peavey and gives a passable cabinet....I think, but I've heard this too much today to make a real judgement on this.
So, what do you think? Does this work as a tone? Does it sound ok or does it sound shit?
very sloppy playing on this (both bass and guitar), but what the hell.
🎵 jong-peavey-c30-podx3cabinet.mp3
desertbluesman#2 · Jan 10, 2010 03:00 UTC
Fuckin outrageous amigo. There are folks who after a lifetime of trying who would give one of their testicles to be able to play that sloppy. Man you got soul brutha. I want to see Jon and Lydia teamed up right after her graduation. You will freak out the Brit blues community, and there is no doubt in my mind that if you get heard (by going out and doing concerts), you both will succeed musically beyond your wildest dreams). There are acts out there that will never know how to do what you do and making big bucks at it too. And I want free front row seats in the venue in Phoenix and Los Angeles when you tour there.
By the way the tone was stellar it don't get any better than that. Schaweeeeeet.
One thing however don't forget to let it breathe, with full beat or two silences here and there. You are phrasing silences in there nicely, but make the silences a little longer. And some of the fast runs a tad shorter, they can go on indefinitely if you put in just a tad longer silences between the punctuation. Listen to your own breathing when you listen back to your own solo's, and make the punctuations then silences fit in with your natural breath rhythm, and learn that rhythm and then blast away. Do it like all the great horn players did. I don't want to come off like a great arranger or anything like that, you are a friend of mine and that shit comes to my mind when I listen to you, and my big time producer friends all tell me that same thing about my playing and I have to fuckin learn it myself.
CraigB#3 · Jan 10, 2010 06:05 UTC
I think Dave liked it! ;D
Jon_G#4 · Jan 10, 2010 09:45 UTC
Well I'll be damned... Wasn't expecting that dbm, thanks very much. You are absolutely right om the phrasing, I should let it breath with longer pauses but I just get carried away sometimes and just try an pack em in ! I have always loved the light and shade approach to playing, quiet ome moment then a roar the next.. just need a good singer which is so hard to find.
So back to the sound of the cabinet, glad that sounds good as it makes for a very nice way to record the amp at low decibels!
Cheers
jon
Lwb#5 · Jan 10, 2010 10:44 UTC
Sounds very good to my ears !
....I'm trying with "gearbox" ! :)
Ciao ! Marco
Jon_G#6 · Jan 10, 2010 12:53 UTC
Lwb — Jan 10, 2010Sounds very good to my ears !
....I'm trying with "gearbox" ! :)
Ciao ! Marco
I found that the line6 4x12 cab with sm57 on axis sounded the best. What I need really (and I used to have one but sold it some time ago) is a thd hotplate so I can get the power tube section into the cabs, that would be really good. Might have to invest in another one of those!
Actually, makes me wonder why no-one has made a dedicated top-end cabinet simulator instead of messing around digitally modelling the amp section as that's the bit which really has to be valve. I know there are lots of plugins for cab sims but I really would like a hardware device for this.
Kabala#7 · Jan 10, 2010 15:06 UTC
All of it was excellent, tone, playing, vibe, everything. Best phrase for me was @ 0:37- 0:50, very snarly tone!
Jon_G#8 · Jan 10, 2010 16:12 UTC
I just tried this again with the redwire convolver cabs, 4x12 with sm57 off centre I just purchased the IR1A convolver $49 from www.mellomuse.com. It's the only convolver that I have tried that I can acutally play through it in real time within protools with almost no latency. very good.
This first one is:
les paul (coil tap single coil mode) > Peavey classic 30 > effects send into protools > IR1A convolver > Marshall 4x12 cab with sm57 off centre
This is without any EQ at all.
🎵 jg-test2-redwirecabsm57.mp3
Jon_G#9 · Jan 10, 2010 16:14 UTC
and this is the same test but with some post eq to drop the mids a bit as the first one has a bit too much mids for my ears.
So what do you think of these ?
🎵 jg-test2-redwirecabsm57-eq-drop-mids.mp3
Tripper#10 · Jan 10, 2010 17:03 UTC
Seriously, those clips all sound really good.
The second solo sounds like Jimmy Page on crack (which I view as a good thing).