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Something a bit different this time, going with Chargers suggestion on the mic placement (roughly 5" away from the cloth here). For several layered guitars (clean, doubled rhythm, simple lead, etc) I think this sounds alright, maybe not quite warm enough though? More lows, more/less highs, less mids, etc??

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Hi Kabala !

Sounds good but I would add some bass freq. (specially on the cleans...)
For me it's really hard judge a guitar sound "out of the mix"...maybe listened with drum and bass it sounds perfect ! :)

Ciao !
Marco


Thanks for the EQing input, thats exactly what I'm lookging for! Was getting late last night, kinda did this at low voulmes, can't wait to get home today, crank UP, tweak and try some more! Thanks.  :)

hang on just a second there. Throw in some bass and drums and then decide. I think that sounds pretty damn good already. A little bright... The 57's got an upper mid spike so instead of adding low end, you might want to cut a little in the 2-5k range. But don't listen to just guitars and make decisions about the eq like that. The whole bottom of the frequency range is still waiting to be filled. What I hear that is different from your other clips is that sort of alive, jumping out in the room tone. More air. It's a great start.

Thanks! The last couple clips (including this one) were kinda rush jobs, hate being busy...looking forward to the weekend and being able to take my time. I think I'm close, can't stop now.

I guess I'm gonna try a couple of things/tests, I wanna see if I can warm it up a hair by first just moving the mic out a little further as opposed to leaving it be and fooling with amp settings, eq, etc. As it is, its close to straight on (disregard pic below), near dead center of the cap and of course around 5" out. One of the drawbacks to this new Egnater cab is the damn cloth - sure it looks kinda cool and vintagey, but you cannot see through it, even with a light right on it, makes mic placement a minor hassle, I had to actually mark where dead center is with a tape measure when I was swapping speakers out so I could work from there.



Great sounds.
Mixing sounds like that won't be a problem.

Definitely on the Bright side - works great with the rhythm gtrs - they would cut and mesh with a bass.

Be interesting to hear the off axis sounds  - generally where the  warmer sounds are -  but it is a trade off with clarity.

This is really clear - maybe too much in terms of a mix - but the captured sounds are really good.





Thanks for the help, prolly spending way too much time with this crap, lol, but I feel like I'm having to start from from scratch again! Guess now I'm more focused on getting a simple lead tone and will work from/around that. This was an interesting experiment, I dropped myself in a Satch tune for the most raw side by side I could think of, nowhere near Satriani tone of course, way more Marshally flavored, but it makes for a nifty reference starting point I think...

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I like the first one better, sounds more "open". Really like that jangly background, one of yours? Nice!  :)

cgtrox  8-)

Thanks, Chris, this amp is wild, so many unusual (but good) things about the way the tone knobs work...I just fooled with it some more and got a better sound I think (upped to same link)...surprisingly, I cranked up the bass knob from around 9:00 oclock (these amps have gobs of low end and I'm also micing a G12H30, already beefy down there) up to 1:00 and instead of simply getting more chunk, it opened up the sound more, almost as if that control doesn't fully affect low end but rather the overall brightness or something, either way, without moving the mic, it sounds better, of course I also cranked the volume way up (its crazy loud now, but the amp sounds sooo good like this)!

The first thing was basically the same amp settings (with lower vol) and mic placement, amazing difference though when the same tone is dropped in a completely different backing, go figure. The music in the first clip is just my version of a MacAlpine tune, I WISH I could write like that, lol.
Foine tones and recording there D.  Pro quality.  Go forth and spawn some Splawn tunage!

Thanks, T! I'm getting carried away with the clips but ef it, I'm learning my amp, getting better at recording and the real plus is also slipping into
good playing shape again...

This is a pure Vinnie Moore type rip off, the rhythm is right from one of his tunes, the wankery is me, but even so, still feels like his tune. Just needed something simple I could lay down quickly with zero thought and focus on the tones in a near full mix of mine own, dropping a decent lead tone into an already sweet pro mix was cheating, lol, suddenly the same amp tone is not as nice, oh well.

No bass, drums are raw from EZ, no plugs on anything, no eq, etc, just working on getting guitar sounds close on their own. Some nasties with the notes (pitch), don't care though, was a one take blow off, lol, got lucky with some of it, good enuff for clip numero 30 (or so). (-;

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That's cool - not possible to make too many clips imo.  Nice lead!  I can't play like that, but I do 'preciate hearing some.

I don't have any useful advice, but not bad for no EQ .  Is everything set up the same for left and right rhythms?