#1 · Jan 08, 2014 18:43 UTC
#2 · Jan 08, 2014 21:20 UTC
I dunno, I thought the CD sounded as good or better than the vinyl in this video... what did you think? The loudness wars have been fought, and as far as I'm concerned, those of us who like dynamics lost.
#3 · Jan 08, 2014 21:40 UTC
I didn't hear much of a difference through my PC speakers/subwoofer. But, when I put on headphones, I could definitely hear it. The "sausage" version sounded more compressed and lacking in comparison.
That said, I no longer own a multi-thousand dollar sound system nor do I wear headphones much so I guess it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
It is a bit puzzling why someone who went out of his way to create an analog recording with a lot of dynamic range would then allow someone to squash the life out of it during the mastering process...
That said, I no longer own a multi-thousand dollar sound system nor do I wear headphones much so I guess it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
It is a bit puzzling why someone who went out of his way to create an analog recording with a lot of dynamic range would then allow someone to squash the life out of it during the mastering process...
#4 · Jan 08, 2014 22:24 UTC
That's the point of it I guess. To be honest that vinyl version looks pretty damn compressed as well... a lot of the differences in the outputs are going to come down to what an LP can do... it can't handle loud bass or extreme transients, you gotta keep that needle from skipping.
I know Dave Grohl loves him his analog, but remember, this is a guy whose fame began with Nevermind, which was a loud-ass album for its time, I think that came out in 1991 and it was loud then. And he's a rock drummer who plays music that's pretty heavy and pounding... Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age... he's not making "Rumours". I would expect that "Sound City" album to be super loud and crushed, because, let's face it, getting a bunch of unrelated famous musicians together to make an album has never been the path to overwhelmingly good songs... and when the songs aren't very good, the tendency is to make them louder on the master.
Maybe it's because Dave Grohl plays on so many friggin albums... maybe he just never has time to get ear fatigue from his own stuff, since he's on everything.
I know Dave Grohl loves him his analog, but remember, this is a guy whose fame began with Nevermind, which was a loud-ass album for its time, I think that came out in 1991 and it was loud then. And he's a rock drummer who plays music that's pretty heavy and pounding... Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age... he's not making "Rumours". I would expect that "Sound City" album to be super loud and crushed, because, let's face it, getting a bunch of unrelated famous musicians together to make an album has never been the path to overwhelmingly good songs... and when the songs aren't very good, the tendency is to make them louder on the master.
Maybe it's because Dave Grohl plays on so many friggin albums... maybe he just never has time to get ear fatigue from his own stuff, since he's on everything.
#5 · Jan 09, 2014 20:25 UTC
Heh...
#6 · Jan 09, 2014 20:42 UTC
I saw the movie a few months back. I thought it pretty interesting.
I watched the video. I can see the compression, but couldn't really tell much difference at all. When he was switching back and forth, I could only tell when I saw the switch. No sonic difference really.
As far as the loudness wars, I didn't know much about it. In my collection, I have loaded a shitload (that's alot ;D) of MP3's on my phone and I set it on random play when plugged into my truck stereo and as the songs change, the volume can vary from artist to artist. There are some that are slammed to high hell. Huge differences in volume.
I never jumped on the Nirvana, Dave Grohl bandwagon. I've heard pieces and parts of his stuff, but just couldn't swallow the kool-aid.
I watched the video. I can see the compression, but couldn't really tell much difference at all. When he was switching back and forth, I could only tell when I saw the switch. No sonic difference really.
As far as the loudness wars, I didn't know much about it. In my collection, I have loaded a shitload (that's alot ;D) of MP3's on my phone and I set it on random play when plugged into my truck stereo and as the songs change, the volume can vary from artist to artist. There are some that are slammed to high hell. Huge differences in volume.
I never jumped on the Nirvana, Dave Grohl bandwagon. I've heard pieces and parts of his stuff, but just couldn't swallow the kool-aid.