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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=agCGOzW9xVNk

A lot of rebalancing of assumptions are  going on.
Seemed academic only 4 or 5 years ago - something that would happen gradually and  several decades in the future.

But it's imminent - it is just the start.
alot of people have been called crazy conspiracy theorists/whackos for predicting and warning against the things that are happening now and will continue to happen in the next 5 years. i don't consider myself a nutjob, but i can see how one would be alarmed at the groundwork being laid now towards a more unified global government
been hearing about the NWO for 20 years now.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/dollar_loses_reserve_status_to_yen_hFyfwvpBW1YYLykSJwTTEL;jsessionid=65E301CF47ED50D15170F8D6530791C5

Ben Bernanke's dollar crisis went into a wider mode yesterday as the greenback was shockingly upstaged by the euro and yen, both of which can lay claim to the world title as the currency favored by central banks as their reserve currency.

Over the last three months, banks put 63 percent of their new cash into euros and yen -- not the greenbacks -- a nearly complete reversal of the dollar's onetime dominance for reserves, according to Barclays Capital. The dollar's share of new cash in the central banks was down to 37 percent -- compared with two-thirds a decade ago.

Fed boss Ben Bernanke may be forced to raise rates in order to restore faith in the dollar — and help bring the euro and the yen back to earth.
Currently, dollars account for about 62 percent of the currency reserve at central banks -- the lowest on record, said the International Monetary Fund.

Bernanke could go down in economic history as the man who killed the greenback on the operating table.

After printing up trillions of new dollars and new bonds to stimulate the US economy, the Federal Reserve chief is now boxed into a corner battling two separate monsters that could devour the economy -- ravenous inflation on one hand, and a perilous recession on the other.

"He's in a crisis worse than the meltdown ever was," said Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital. "I fear that he could be the Fed chairman who brought down the whole thing."

Investors and central banks are snubbing dollars because the greenback is kept too weak by zero interest rates and a flood of greenbacks in the global economy.

They grumble that they've loaned the US record amounts to cover its mounting debt, but are getting paid back by a currency that's worth 10 percent less in the past three months alone. In a decade, it's down nearly one-third.

Yesterday, the dollar had a mixed performance, falling slightly against the British pound to $1.5801 from $1.5846 Friday, but rising against the euro to $1.4779 from $1.4709 and against the yen to 89.85 yen from 89.78.

Economists believe the market rebellion against the dollar will spread until Bernanke starts raising interest rates from around zero to the high single digits, and pulls back the flood of currency spewed from US printing presses.

"That's a cure, but it's also going to stifle any US economic growth," said Schiff. "The economy is addicted to the cheap interest and liquidity."

Economists warn that a jump in rates will clobber stocks and cripple the already stalled housing market.

"Bernanke's other choice is to keep rates at zero, print even more money and sell more debt, but we'll see triple-digit inflation that could collapse the economy as we know it.

"The stimulus is what's toxic -- we're poisoning ourselves and the global economy with it."
Chase, you're hilarious.  You tell us you don't listen to talk hosts, you don't watch Fox News, and that you are independent?  Then you quote to us from Peter Schiff?  Is that a fucking joke?  The guy is a Republican running for Chris Dodd's seat!  Do you think you could possibly pick a MORE biased source?

One shouldn't read the New York Post and assume they are getting anything resembling "news."
are you saying the info in the article is untrue? the interpretation of it is obviously biased but the raw facts are real.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8243455.stm

stuff like this isn't helping the $
chase — Oct 14, 2009are you saying the info in the article is untrue? the interpretation of it is obviously biased but the raw facts are real.

The Euro has been worth more than the dollar for many years now.  It's no surprise that the rest of the world wants to replace the USD as the fundamental currency.  It's been many years now since we have been the kings of the hill anywhere but in our own minds.  If you think us becoming less important in the world is Obama's fault, no offense, but you are fucking biased, or you weren't paying attention for the last ten years.  
The — Oct 13, 2009been hearing about the NWO for 20 years now.


I'm not talking about the NWO dreamt up by conspiracy hooked right wing ignoramuses
it was a bad choice of words - I forgot that loaded connotation.

I mean new world order as in an imminent  change in the geo-political balance of power.

Like the transition of power between the UK and US in the early 20th century.
Fall of the Soviet Union

that kind of thing