The Watering Hole

Politics
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Enough has been said about the election,
but moving on to his presidency

What do you foresee ?
off the top of my head - so just opinions and open to change by events.


Race

Elephant in the room


On the fence in racial politics, rising above it and balancing it with all the other pressures.
He is a post race president.
He will guard that independence highest of all as racial politics is incendiary.
He also has a far deeper understanding of this than anyone else has,


War

Mammoth  in the room


Change the mood music, rearrange the priorities and use soft power more.
Islamicists will be striken by this election result -
racial nationalism is a major element they exploit and appropriate in the name of religion.

And Obama presents them with a big problem.
Obama will not let up on the military pressure on them while simultaneously taking away a large part of their support which was motivated by a big fuck you we can all be tough guys  to the  Bush doctrine.

He will  be able to talk softly and carry a big stick on this issue.

Economic
T-rex in the room

This will be  his immediate concern now, followed by security concerns as this is the classic time for an attack, the low blow.

Obama will be sure to make it clear that he is dealing with a legacy from republicans.

But even so,  the reality is that republicans will now ruthlessly seek to pin their mistakes on him and let him take the rap for their incompetence.

But that aside - the partisan viper pit.

Economically, the situation is so extraordinary that it is impossible to say - at least in a usual suspect sense of right and left politics.
The banking system has been nationalised pretty much worldwide, even the banks that aren't are under the regime.

His immediate consuming task will be about creating the conditions where it is all  un-nationalised as soon as possible at a profit for the tax payers hopefully.
I doubt he will have much time to devote to other things in the first year at least - probably two he will be firefighting.


If Obama is competent then he will do what is right regardless of popularity.

My only real reservation with Obama is with free trade and protectionism.
If it is a nuance of policy - fine, but if it is protectionism it is a negative sum game and potentially disastrous

Trade wars are to be avoided - in the current situation China has the money to pull a financial US plug into mutual chaos.

Overall

I think and hope Obama will be nuanced, clever and skilful  in leadership.
Which will make a welcome  change :)




It's Camelot all over again.  

I hope that it doesn't end the same way.
Indeed - apparently there are people who would like to see him assassinated.




Sadly, there are peeps on THIS board who would like to see that.  :'( :'( :'(

He is going to be another Kennedy, that is so apparent. Young, charismatic, very well spoken, very intelligent, very popular, etc. Hell, on his campaign trail they uncovered a plot to kill him already. Sad to say, what should have been a grand slam for civil rights in this country is still a bittersweet victory in the U.S.  :-[

cgtrox  8-)  
With any luck that person will miss and get Hillary...  :D
uh Chris... who on this board would like to see that???   :-?
DreamTheaterRules — Nov 08, 2008uh Chris... who on this board would like to see that???   :-?


:-X

cgtrox  8-)
I think the protection presidents get now will ensure that attempts by random extremist groups  will fail.

The inside job is the biggest concern, security relies on thousands of secret service agents at times and it only takes a single deliberate act of negligence  to sabotage it.

So I would imagine they will be vetting the loyalties of existing security teams more closely than ever before, switching them around and mixing in new faces that can be relied on.

classic "who guards the guards" situation.

I doubt Obama will be addressing huge crowds in the open much from now on.
certainly no open air motorcades.



DreamTheaterRules — Nov 08, 2008uh Chris... who on this board would like to see that???   :-?


Don't you think it's kind of apparent by the tone of :-X 's posts? It's one thing being dumb and believing lies about a guy, it's something else entirely when you talk about him as though he seeks to destroy the very country he wishes to rule (which is the most fucking moronic logic, and so very... :-X ).

Tripper
:-X   :question
I was being silly. I don't believe there actually is a  :-X on this board.

Tripper
;D ;D ;D

cgtrox  8-)
Tripper — Nov 13, 2008I was being silly. I don't believe there actually is a  :-X on this board.

Tripper


Just a...



;)
Precisely, Craig.
Tripper