The Watering Hole

Interesting video.

New Orleans was a pretty terrible government response...

Security control clearly became the #1 issue for the government.

Why can't they walk - because the communities they would be walking to aren't capable of providing for them as masses.

This is the thing that is ignored by arm chair generals in war - large civilian populations cannot just get up an walk somewhere else.

So yeah - if I was in New Orleans at that time - being armed would help me survive - probably, it may also make  more likely to take chances that lead to my and others deaths - impossible to say, but in that situation my gut prefers to be totally armed - with Bazookas if possible.

But as a population as a whole in that situation - Arms has upped the ante several orders of magnitude and made it a hell hole for security and relief.

Even so - it wasn't exactly Falujah in there - but face it George Bush was in charge then and he was a crap lazy president - one of the worst.

Hard to imagine any other president being as negligent as him.

CraigBert — Feb 25, 2010[quote author=Hookbender link=1265411987/175#193 date=1267098294]I'm not sure it matters Craig. I'm assuming that accidental death, murder, etc are all considered. The fact that the rate of death is so high compaired to other countries in that age group kinda makes your concern, unworthy of considration.

Actually I think it's the most important point.  You don't have to be a racist to realize that, by far, the largest percentage of gun related deaths (that are not suicides - the #1 cause) are done by young, black men who are probably in gangs (or innocent bystanders during gang banging).  These people won't be disarmed and there isn't much of any control there anyway.




I don't care if their in a gang. Their killed with guns.

And, I don't care what color the murdered is, or the shooter. Doesn't matter.

Last thing, your assuming a lot with the black men murder thing in gangs suff. (Being the majoriety) And, it doesn't matter either.

chase — Feb 25, 2010i suggest you move than; for the safety of your children. my rights aren't going anywhere regardless of how you feel.

Wow, guns are more important to you than the safety of children?

The rights thing. ;D ;D ;D

Bless you child. ;D ;D

Hookbender — Feb 26, 2010[quote author=CraigBert link=1265411987/175#195 date=1267122029][quote author=Hookbender link=1265411987/175#193 date=1267098294]I'm not sure it matters Craig. I'm assuming that accidental death, murder, etc are all considered. The fact that the rate of death is so high compaired to other countries in that age group kinda makes your concern, unworthy of considration.

Actually I think it's the most important point.  You don't have to be a racist to realize that, by far, the largest percentage of gun related deaths (that are not suicides - the #1 cause) are done by young, black men who are probably in gangs (or innocent bystanders during gang banging).  These people won't be disarmed and there isn't much of any control there anyway.




I don't care if their in a gang. Their killed with guns.

And, I don't care what color the murdered is, or the shooter. Doesn't matter.

Last thing, your assuming a lot with the black men murder thing in gangs suff. (Being the majoriety) And, it doesn't matter either.


No assumptions, I'll find one of MANY sites that show those statistics.  What matters is that anyone in a gang will NOT be following any gun control measures.

Hookbender — Feb 26, 2010[quote author=chase link=1265411987/175#191 date=1267076861]i suggest you move than; for the safety of your children. my rights aren't going anywhere regardless of how you feel.

Wow, guns are more important to you than the safety of children?

The rights thing. ;D ;D ;D

Bless you child. ;D ;D



my rights are more important than your fears.

chase — Feb 26, 2010

my rights are more important than your fears.

How do you feel about the Patriot Act?  Wiretapping?  Torture?  Little old ladies taking off their shoes in airports?

I'm assuming you feel those are all bad things...

charger — Feb 26, 2010[quote author=chase link=1265411987/200#204 date=1267162585]

my rights are more important than your fears.

How do you feel about the Patriot Act?  Wiretapping?  Torture?  Little old ladies taking off their shoes in airports?

I'm assuming you feel those are all bad things...

as a general statement i think the patriot act was one of the worst civil rights violations to be endorsed by congress. i like what is trying to be accomplished, but the means do not justify the ends in this situation.

Hey, look at that! We agree on something.

Watching Death Wish at the moment just coincidence showing on tv.