The Watering Hole

So, I listened to Rush make it sound like a complete waist of efforts, and President Obama make it sound like the logical decision was made and it's very good.

So, which is it? ;D

I sure am getting tired of him making all these deals and telling Americans we can read about it, after the fact. But, if what the President said is true and accurate, How could you pass that up? It's damn sure worth a try.

You know, for all the opposition President Obama has faced, he's really accomplished a lot during his time. health Care, now this deal with Iran.... pretty damn strong resume!

just think what he could have done if republicans didn't have there heads stuck up each others ass.

A Muslim President who doesn't like Israel?  ;)

Depends on what Iran does for the next decade or so, and the neighbors as well...

Rushy said Iran gets a 23 or 24.... something like that..... day heads up on inspections. I hope that's not the case.

I think, at some point soon, the people from the promise land, (America loves so much), are gonna fuck Iran up big time. Their little President or whatever is pissed.  ;D

Rushee is a pill popping junkie who repeats the Drudge Report and thinks he's creating something.  Heeza tool

I listened to him for about 30 minutes or so, man, Rushy straight up lies. I don't even have to know the details of what he's talking about, and i know it's rubbish by the way his voice changes and becomes stupid shit talk. People like him is what government should make illegal. They should deport those people to their original place of orgin so they know what shit hole they came from. (A little country in orgin, by god).. ;D ;D

I'm listening to Van Halen. Man what a great band. Sammy too. Lots of energy with both. I'm a late fan of both. Always liked VH, but I'm starting to really like Sammy now for some reason. Could be he's cool as shit.

Hookbender — Jul 17, 2015I'm listening to Van Halen. Man what a great band. Sammy too. Lots of energy with both. I'm a late fan of both. Always liked VH, but I'm starting to really like Sammy now for some reason. Could be he's cool as shit.

amazing.

no assholery intended, I'm just amazed that anyone could be a late fan of VH!

Really, I don't know the details, but I think the whole idea that this was negotiated in secret or something is not true.  It was negotiated the same way everything is negotiated--by a team of negotiators.  Congress then gets the ENTIRE DEAL for 60 days, and they get to pick it to shreds... so there are no secrets in it.

Here's a good breakdown of the major myths and the truth on them, both good and bad.  

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/17/8989147/iran-nuclear-deal-myths

ironsheep — Jul 17, 2015[quote author=Hookbender link=1437002183/0#6 date=1437103180]I'm listening to Van Halen. Man what a great band. Sammy too. Lots of energy with both. I'm a late fan of both. Always liked VH, but I'm starting to really like Sammy now for some reason. Could be he's cool as shit.

amazing.

no assholery intended, I'm just amazed that anyone could be a late fan of VH!

Mainly of the Sammy days. I use to hate Sammy. A new listen recently made me like the Sammy days as well. I don't think their will ever be another VH, the band. The Roth days were magic.

Hookbender — Jul 17, 2015[quote author=ironsheep link=1437002183/0#7 date=1437140374][quote author=Hookbender link=1437002183/0#6 date=1437103180]I'm listening to Van Halen. Man what a great band. Sammy too. Lots of energy with both. I'm a late fan of both. Always liked VH, but I'm starting to really like Sammy now for some reason. Could be he's cool as shit.

amazing.

no assholery intended, I'm just amazed that anyone could be a late fan of VH!

Mainly of the Sammy days. I use to hate Sammy. A new listen recently made me like the Sammy days as well. I don't think their will ever be another VH, the band. The Roth days were magic.


Eddie's playing on those albums with Sammy is unimpeachable.  He is great no matter what, and some of his most beautiful lines are on those albums.  But so much of the 5150+ era VH sucks.  The poppy song structure, the dumb jokes, the horrible electronic simmons drums, the overused keys.  I'll listen to Eddie on anything but I don't like it as music.

charger — Jul 17, 2015Really, I don't know the details, but I think the whole idea that this was negotiated in secret or something is not true.  It was negotiated the same way everything is negotiated--by a team of negotiators.  Congress then gets the ENTIRE DEAL for 60 days, and they get to pick it to shreds... so there are no secrets in it.

Here's a good breakdown of the major myths and the truth on them, both good and bad.  

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/17/8989147/iran-nuclear-deal-myths

I think that if the inspections allow us to see exactly what's going on with their nuclear program it will be a big plus. I just hope we don't get into a deal like Iraq where they stop certain inspection and all that crap. If inspectors are denied on any level, I think the sanctions should be back on and their facilities destroyed.

One thing I have a problem with is the hostage situation. That should have been a main objective in this deal. I don't know the details of these hostages, didn't even know they had them till the Press conference Obama had.