The Watering Hole

This beast is one step closer...  Feel free to search it to see how many of your freedoms have probably been usurped (I hear it gives the Government the right to search your house to make sure you're treating your children right - yay...).

Yeah, I put it on one of my servers to make it faster to download.

http://www.nwcraig.com/download/Healthcare_bill_HR-3200.pdf

By the way, it was "only" 1,017 pages back in July, but it's now 1,990 pages long!  :o :-?

"Home visitations?"  Maybe this is the part where they go to the homes and tell the parents how they should be parenting?  :-?

Pages 1182-1184...  Which includes:

12 ‘‘(v) provide parents with—
13 ‘‘(I) knowledge of age-appro-
14 priate child development in cognitive,
15 language, social, emotional, and motor
16 domains (including knowledge of sec-
17 ond language acquisition, in the case
18 of English language learners);
19 ‘‘(II) knowledge of realistic ex-
20 pectations of age-appropriate child be-
21 haviors;
22 ‘‘(III) knowledge of health and
23 wellness issues for children and par-
24 ents;
1 ‘‘(IV) modeling, consulting, and
2 coaching on parenting practices;
3 ‘‘(V) skills to interact with their
4 child to enhance age-appropriate de-
5 velopment;
6 ‘‘(VI) skills to recognize and seek
7 help for issues related to health, devel-
8 opmental delays, and social, emo -
9 tional, and behavioral skills; and
10 ‘‘(VII) activities designed to help
11 parents become full partners in the
12 education of their children;

"knowledge panels" noooooooooooooooooooooo!

Did you actually read these sections?  I'm sure there's much more scary stuff in this document tho, keep looking.

The text you threw up is about one "page" btw.

Two pages actually.

Some pages have SO many references to other sections (including "codes" that aren't even in the bill) that they are basically unreadable...

CraigBert — Nov 08, 2009"Home visitations?"  Maybe this is the part where they go to the homes and tell the parents how they should be parenting?  :-?

Pages 1182-1184...  Which includes:

12 ‘‘(v) provide parents with—
13 ‘‘(I) knowledge of age-appro-
14 priate child development in cognitive,
15 language, social, emotional, and motor
16 domains (including knowledge of sec-
17 ond language acquisition, in the case
18 of English language learners);
19 ‘‘(II) knowledge of realistic ex-
20 pectations of age-appropriate child be-
21 haviors;
22 ‘‘(III) knowledge of health and
23 wellness issues for children and par-
24 ents;
1 ‘‘(IV) modeling, consulting, and
2 coaching on parenting practices;
3 ‘‘(V) skills to interact with their
4 child to enhance age-appropriate de-
5 velopment;
6 ‘‘(VI) skills to recognize and seek
7 help for issues related to health, devel-
8 opmental delays, and social, emo -
9 tional, and behavioral skills; and
10 ‘‘(VII) activities designed to help
11 parents become full partners in the
12 education of their children;

Oh shit, they want to provide people with knowledge?

Everyone knows that's the beginning of fascism right there.

CraigBert — Nov 08, 2009"Home visitations?"  Maybe this is the part where they go to the homes and tell the parents how they should be parenting?  :-?

Pages 1182-1184...  Which includes:

12 ‘‘(v) provide parents with—
13 ‘‘(I) knowledge of age-appro-
14 priate child development in cognitive,
15 language, social, emotional, and motor
16 domains (including knowledge of sec-
17 ond language acquisition, in the case
18 of English language learners);
19 ‘‘(II) knowledge of realistic ex-
20 pectations of age-appropriate child be-
21 haviors;
22 ‘‘(III) knowledge of health and
23 wellness issues for children and par-
24 ents;
1 ‘‘(IV) modeling, consulting, and
2 coaching on parenting practices;
3 ‘‘(V) skills to interact with their
4 child to enhance age-appropriate de-
5 velopment;
6 ‘‘(VI) skills to recognize and seek
7 help for issues related to health, devel-
8 opmental delays, and social, emo -
9 tional, and behavioral skills; and
10 ‘‘(VII) activities designed to help
11 parents become full partners in the
12 education of their children;

Obviously I've just skimmed it, but I don't see anything frightening or horrible in this bill.  The section you referenced is basically saying that your insurance should (or must; I didn't look into the originating section) pay for home visits from healthcare assistants.  I honestly can't see how you could possible misconstrue this as "the government searching your house for mistreatment"... this is something that most healthcare already offers.  We were able to get this with our first and second children; a doula to come to the house and help us prepare, give us some insight into things we could do to get ready for the baby (before the first) and then, to actually come and just help out around the house a little with the second.  All paid for (partially) by my insurance at the time--two different companies actually.  

I know you don't have kids, Craig, so you might not understand that a lot of parents are freaked out, or totally clueless.  To be able to get help from a professional seems to be pretty damn cool if you ask me, both before and after a child is born, and during their childhood.

Again, I am not sure this is much of a change from what insurers offer now... I know I got partial reimbursement for it.  But that could just be my plan, or California law.

It seemed to me that this pertains to low income people on medicare, medicaid, or chip programs who want to have the type of help charger brought up.   Teen mothers would be one example of people who might need this.  If you're scared about the state just remember that on the basis of a teacher or neighbor or anonymous tip getting you into the system, you can get a visit that might lead to your children being taken from you until family services feels comfortable.  This system usually works for getting kids out of abusive situation but you could be afraid of it.  If you wanna gripe about paying for others to get this help I might see where you're coming from but otherwise it's a lil like when you see an abusive mother tell someone "Nobody gunna tell me how to raise my kids"

Once this bill goes to the senate it will change so reading it now isn't reading what it will be.  We'll see how much shitier it can get.