HTML5 — The Watering Hole

Jon_G #1 · Feb 02, 2013 13:59 UTC

Is there anyone in this forum that is fluent with HTML5, more specifically to convert some <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
standard pages to be HTML5 compliant ?

All of my current pages are produced with code behind that connects to sql databases etc and does lots of work at the server and I use sqldatasources and gridviews abundantly..

As far as I can see, the stuff that needs changing is mostly removing all font types, sizes and table widths and sizes etc and replacing those under CSS control.

Sounds easy, but there is a lot of it. I can't really use a different development application as I am tied into using Delphi Rad Studio 2007 because of the legacy stuff and it performs perfectly well anywy, just want to get the HTML bit compliant with HTML5.

I am of course willing to pay for the service of anyone who can do this on a per page basis. I could do this myself but I just don't have the time.

Anyone ?

CraigB #2 · Feb 02, 2013 20:03 UTC

Sorry Jon, haven't had to deal with that (yet!).

Jon_G #3 · Feb 02, 2013 22:47 UTC

CraigBert — Feb 02, 2013Sorry Jon, haven't had to deal with that (yet!).

It's a fucker for sure. It's not a problem with chrome or firefox but with IE10 microsoft have this damn silly compatibility view switch that the users have to manually click to view a previous standard web page. Both chrome and firefox automatically render the page in the format according to the header but of course microsoft ignorenthat and have to fuck things up and break millions of web applications, so I'm trying to get ahead of the game a bit to protect my business. Mind you, IE10 is so fucking awful that I wouldn't be suprised if it seals their death toll in the browser arena.

CraigB #4 · Feb 03, 2013 01:58 UTC

Jon — Feb 02, 2013[quote author=CraigBert link=1359813575/0#1 date=1359835424]Sorry Jon, haven't had to deal with that (yet!).

It's a fucker for sure. It's not a problem with chrome or firefox but with IE10 microsoft have this damn silly compatibility view switch that the users have to manually click to view a previous standard web page. Both chrome and firefox automatically render the page in the format according to the header but of course microsoft ignorenthat and have to fuck things up and break millions of web applications, so I'm trying to get ahead of the game a bit to protect my business. Mind you, IE10 is so fucking awful that I wouldn't be suprised if it seals their death toll in the browser arena.

Yeah, the other browsers don't need all that conditional content for each version!

charger #5 · Feb 04, 2013 06:53 UTC

Couple of other steps on this page but this is a good start:

"Technically, merely changing the first line of the HTML code on a page to <!DOCTYPE html> is enough to make it HTML5; even loosely coded pages should validate, given HTML5's lowering of standards. (A number of my full-time second year students, given the final assignment of making an HTML5 website, did exactly that)."

http://demosthenes.info/blog/328/Converting-an-XHTML-Page-to-HTML5

Jon_G #6 · Feb 04, 2013 20:15 UTC

charger — Feb 04, 2013Couple of other steps on this page but this is a good start:

"Technically, merely changing the first line of the HTML code on a page to <!DOCTYPE html> is enough to make it HTML5; even loosely coded pages should validate, given HTML5's lowering of standards. (A number of my full-time second year students, given the final assignment of making an HTML5 website, did exactly that)."

http://demosthenes.info/blog/328/Converting-an-XHTML-Page-to-HTML5

I have tried changing doctype before but that only works on very simple pages. As most of my pages contain pretty complex database stuff referenced from the html page to the backend code behind there's quite a bit of work to do. It would be nice if microsoft would auto detect the page type as firefox and google do but that would just be too easy wouldn't it. This is something that needs a lot of thought before I go steaming into it, but just don't have the time at the moment.

Thanks for your input