The Watering Hole

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Ok, I got the Tweaker combo a couple days ago.  Cheap--$459 for a "blem" from zzounds, no tax, free shipping.  I was a little concerned about the "blem" aspect.  Turns out, it was mainly the box, which was beat all to hell.  However, the amp is pristine, not a mark on it. So for those of you wondering about blems from zzounds, so far I'm batting 1000.

Visually it's sweet.  You've all seen it. Clean and tight looking.  The controls are on top, which is not ideal for our studio, but good enough.  Interesting when I looked inside, the whole chassis sits sideways, so the tubes point towards the speaker.  There's a grill that radiates heat out of the top. As my buddy said " a perfect place to spill beer or drop some picks."  Not an ideal design, but easily remedied by keeping beer and picks off the amp top.

Soundwise, at low volume it kills.  So many great sounds.  The character switch is fairly subtle at low volumes, but it's there.  This amp is ideal for playing in your bedroom.  Tons of great tones at a whisper.

At medium to loud volumes, when you dime the gain on the clean channel , the character switch really pops.  You get the sound of a mildly overdriven Fender, or AC30.  When people say "chime" and "sparkle", yeah, that sound.  I'm not 100% on the British setting, this is really more like a "more" switch than anything else. Just more of everything.  Or in any case I don't know which Brit amp it's supposed to be--apparently one with some low mids that's kind of loud.  The AC sound is sterling though, and it's becoming my favorite setting on the amp.  

Switch to the "hot" setting and you get some gnarly gain.  No heavy, but crunchy and mean.  Between the master volume and the gain setting, there is a lot of usable tone.  I like the gain somewhere near the middle on the hot setting, with the master up at about halfway.  Note that this is in a room with a live drummer, so it's pretty loud.  I love this sound, and I can get it a little cleaner by backing off the guitar volume, but I agree with a lot of reviews I've read... it would be awesome to footswitch this switch.  Because it really doesn't jump that much in volume when you go from clean to hot, but the gain just punches way up.  Dimed gain on the clean channel is still somewhat clean--notes are distinguishable, chords ring, etc.  Dimed on the hot channel is too much to just play around with.  At somewhere around 3 o'clock all settings work great.

But, since said footswitch doesn't exist, I ran my Satchurator in front of the amp.  Gain about halfway up, tone about 9 0'clock, master below halfway seemed to give me a very balanced tone when I switched it in.  Note that I like my clean sounds pretty bright, and my distortion sounds less so, so rolling back the tone on the Satchurator gives me a less bright distorted sound than the clean tone.  

Overall, tweaking the master and gain knobs I was able to sit well with drums and bass.  No problems with volume, you probably need two watts with a speaker as efficient as the G12H30 to keep up...

So here's what it needs... reverb/delay.  The whole thing is very dry sounding.  Even drier than my Sovtek sounds, for some reason.  Not sure why.  A reverb pedal is next on my list, I need something in the loop to give it a little space.  Also, I need a delay for it, delay has become a part of my playing and my memory boy deluxe is wired into the loop on the sansamp/sovtek combo, with cable conduits, etc, so it was not simple to switch it out for this amp. So I'm looking for another delay pedal and a reverb to throw in the loop.

As far as the sound, I've noticed that a lot of people talk about how dark this combo is.  That was definitely something I noticed on the one I demoed at GC, but mine, not so much.  It was bright, not dark.  Could be that the speaker needs a few hours of break-in time.  I remember running the tones at noon-3-3 at GC, and with my own amp, I ran them all at noon.  So definitely more trebly and midrangy than at Guitar Center.  

Not a lot of bottom end.  My comparison is the SpiderValve, which would just flatten this amp in a second.  It's got probably 10db more in low end at any setting, maybe more.  Even the Sovtek, which is more midrangy and low-midrangy, has more low end.  Again, this could be a speaker break-in issue too, but at this point, this is an amp that cuts through but doesn't push out much beef.

Anyway, there is  my verdict after a few days at home and one night of hard jamming.  Great little amp, takes pedals well, great range of cleans, not much low end, needs some verb.  Great value, well worth it.  Finally getting rid of my Classic 30.
Charger,

Good review.

re: the amp being dark, Bruce admitted that he voiced it with a lot of bottom because he wanted the amp to "be small but not sound small."  He laughed when someone said it had too much bass and he simply said "it's there if you need it.  If not, turn it down!"  :-)  That said, the "tight" switch can easily knock it down a level and does tighten things up with the gain up as well.  

Also, I think you'll find some tube replacements can take it to a whole nother level.  I'd try a Tong Sol or re-issue Mullard in V1.  (Darn it, forgot to send you those links to the tube threads.  My thread I started at TGP about the Tweaker is 65 pages long now, I need to read through to where guys were comparing tubes and link those pages too you so you don't have to read 65 pages!)

You didn't mention the bright and tight switches, which I find extremely valuable.  Also, the reason I prefer the head is because I can put my alnico Red Fang with the Vox setting and it REALLY sounds great, or I can use a V30 or Greenback with the Marshall setting and both sound great, etc.... I switch cabs depending on what I'm using.  That said, the G12H (or Wizard clone of it that I have) is a great all around choice. Some of the best cleans I've heard were the Fender setting and the Red Fang.  VERY NICE cleans!

Glad you are digging it.  Very cool little amp.  Does SO much by itself, and takes pedals like a champ.  

There is a mod to wire the "hot" switch to a footswitch.  Let me know if you are interested or want to wait a while before you void the warranty.  Also, my Line 6 Verbzilla works great with it or the Rebel 20, in the loop of either.  
I think I've hit that thread a few times on my searches.  Yeah, it's long.  What I learned reading that thread was that you can basically put ANY power tube into it... el84, el34, 6l6, kt88... anything with an octal base.  That seems very cool. I've got some SED Winged-C EL34s sitting around so I might throw those in.

How clean is the verbzilla? does it have a nice plate?
I like the bright switches on low volumes and cleaner sounds particularly.  It's kind of a scoopy bright, it seems to add more high and take out some mid.  But I ended up running with it off most of the time, because it was a little too bright once I hit the distortion pedal.  The tight and deep switch--I just left it on deep.  I'm in a room with a Sovtek Mig 60 > Mesa 1x12, a SpiderValve combo, and a ValveKing combo, 22" kick, and a bass rig with 2x10 and 1x12.  The whole thing will just get eaten alive if I drop the bass any further.
Great review.

The Vintage / Modern switch on modern tightens it up and adds some bass, but treble too.  Seems a softer treble than the bright switch though.

I kept my Rebel cab - enclosed - and the bass is OK for my taste and mostly playing alone.  The 6V6s don't have the depth of bass or the headroom of the 6L6s in the Spider Valve.  The Tweaker is a lot more of an instrument in its own right to my mind.  Not quite enough juice for gigging clean but not a concern for me...

The footswitch mod is interesting, Howie.  I knew someone would do that sooner.
Charger,

the Verbzilla is clean and has a nice plate, IMO.  

Yes, you can us any octal power tube.  Remember the voltage is fixed so it's not properly biased for all of them. This won't harm any of them, but they just won't be at their absolute best.  However, the guys at TGP say you can clearly hear the differences and all formed preferences based on what they wanted, or most used, from the amp.  The EL34s should get you into a nice Marshall tone, if that's what you're after.  

It seems guys who used all three tone stacks say that your favorite 6V6's are best "all around, while if you want a specific tone, they picked another specific tube as favorite.  Marshall sound, use EL34s, big fender cleans use 6L6's, Vox guys say the 6V6's worth best since Voxes use EL84s.  5881s were also a good all around choice.    
While this is not the combo maybe this will be of use to someone.  I am sure this will also demonstrate why I went into academia and not music. This was done on the Tweaker. This was made at home friendly volume levels as well (loud TV volume). I ran the head into a 100w Blue Dog that was initially bought for a different amp but work for me with this amp as well. The rhythm section is a MIK Hamer Sunburst with SD vintage p-90's. One track panned right the other left. I used the Tweaker Marshally styled settings. No effects or eq on the tracks. The bass is the AC settings clean with compression and eq (same cab). Lead is the US studio wth a custom made ts808 clone using the AC setting as well with more gain. All of this was done at home volume levels. I close mic'ed with a Heil PR-30 about 1/2 way from the center to the edge of the cone. For a home recording hack I do not think it is terrible. The drums are loops and final mix has reverb and compression.

Blues Rock vibe ...
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10330670

This is the same rig but more of a country vibe.  This is with a Gibson 60's Tribute using only a DD7 delay (not in the loop but out front in this case). First a 12 barre country type rhythm and then a little noodle on bridge and neck. It was cut 24 bit x 48 and then compressed into variable rate mp3 if that matters (some have had trouble with it and sound cards).

http://drpietrzak.com/music/LP_CTY.mp3

Soundclick version ...

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10338144
Not bad at all.  The solo country clip sounds a lot like my Tweaker sounds.

I'm using an EH Holier Grail in the loop, and I've switched to my trusty Sobbat DriveBreaker for a distortion pedal.  The Tweaker sits between my Sovtek Mig 60 running through a Mesa 1x12 with an EVM 12L, and on the other side of the room, the Spider Valve, 50 watts through a V30.  Needless to say, the Tweaker does not have the same depth as either rig, but because it's got plenty of cut, it works out.  It cannot compete on the low end with either of those rigs, the Sovtek has a very "right" low end, and the SpiderValve has too much.  So the Tweaker ends up sounding a bit shrill.  Interestingly, when I ran the Tweaker through a V30, I thought the low end improved a bit.  It could be that Egnater picked the G12H more for it's treble character (ability to ape both Fender and Vox tones), and sacrificed some low end.  I'm thinking about replacing it with a V30 or something else with more bass.
I have tried the tweaker with the Blue Dog (oversize 1x12 closed), C12N (open back), Swamp Thang & Texas Heat (stereo 2x12/1x12 closed), V30's (2x12 closed), Emi v1258 (2x12), Cannabis Rex (oversize pine 1x12 semi closed) and a Carvin (small 1x12).

In order ..
Cleans: I have liked - Blue dog, C-Rex, Texas Heat, C12n, Swamp Thang
Semi-Clean: Blue Dog, C-Rex, Emi v1258
Dirty: Emi V1258, Blue Dog, C-Rex

The best all around has been the Blue Dog (100w light dope).  I really have not like the V30's for much.  If I hit too much bass for my taste the tight switch seems to generally fix it.  This amp will not replace my tweeds (5e3 Richter or LTD Bassman) but it does so many things really well at low volumes it is hard to beat in a home studio for me.  The next favorite home recording rig has been the Killer Ant and 5e3.  It is not as responsive toe pick attach as the tweeds but it is not bad.

The tweaker takes pedals well to me.  This may have more to do with the speaker being used though.  The Blue Dog, C-Rex and Emi 1258 (a Fulltone favorite) all work well with pedals.  I have tried various Muffs, Luna Module, Screw Driver, Zendrive, TS808 style, SD-1 style, etc. and it has done well.

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Good stuff Dale.   For cleans, I like my Emi Red Fang alnico the best.  Followed by the Wizard (which is a semi-clone of the G12H that Bruce chose for the Tweaker cab).  But it sounds good with my Private Jack (greenback), Governor (v30 copy) and V30 as well.  I switch constantly, depending on what tone I'm going for.  This is a great little amp for the money.  

You might consider putting up the track above as an FNJ.  I think the guys would have fun jamming over it.  
Tell me more about the Cannabis Rex.  A good friend of mine who is a real "golden ear" says that is the speaker on his wish list.  How is the top and bottom end?  Some of the Webbers are available with hemp cones, which is said to darken them. I'm definitely looking for some more bottom from this amp.
I've also heard that the cones with extra THC help the highs...  ;)
charger — Mar 02, 2011Tell me more about the Cannabis Rex.  A good friend of mine who is a real "golden ear" says that is the speaker on his wish list.  How is the top and bottom end?  Some of the Webbers are available with hemp cones, which is said to darken them. I'm definitely looking for some more bottom from this amp.


Many feel the C-Rex is a dark speaker.  I would not call is dark really.  I would say it has a smooth top end with decent definition. It is a very smooth speaker.  The bottom is solid and I think it holds up well even in an amp like my 5e3 which by nature has a somewhat flabby bottom.  They call it smokey.  It is hard to make harsh at all. This said it can be tight, especially new. It is hard to get loosened up (my view). It took a while for it to break in really. It is my favorite speaker with almost all other amps. I have one in my favorite 1x12 solid pine cab and another in my 5e3.  It smooths of fizzy amps and pedals, and work to take the ice pic off an amp like a DRRI without killing the highs.  It does not have the chime of a Blue Dog though if that is what you are looking for from it.

You might like the Swamp Thang if you want something with more bottom without losing the other side. It has a big bottom but clear and articulate high end as well.
Just listened to your clips Doc, nice stuff there.
CraigBert — Mar 02, 2011I've also heard that the cones with extra THC help the highs...  ;)

I think we've got that covered...

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That looks familiar  ;)
This year's harvest went very well.  It's actually kind of absurd to look in the weed closet... you can probably see the pasta sauce jars in the background too...
Actually, the blurriness of that photo seems very appropriate!  ;D
DB - Thanks.  

DTR - I put the backing in that area as well.  I just ran the same mix without the lead line.
charger — Mar 02, 2011This year's harvest went very well.  It's actually kind of absurd to look in the weed closet... you can probably see the pasta sauce jars in the background too...


Nice "stock"...you distributing?  ;D
Nah it's all hang out/personal use weed, 3 or 4 plants a year in my buddy's backyard.  I don't smoke anymore, but my buddy smokes constantly.