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Might want to check this out.  

http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/pedals/throttlebox-eq-pedal.html

Looks spiffy anyway.

I wouldn't mind a Mk IV, Royal Atlantic or Electra Dyne amp.

Good thing I already have one then.  ;)

Kabala,

The both ED and RA get some raving reviews.  I'm kind of interested in a Mark V though.  Hate paying for that many watts that I'd never use, but ...  

DreamTheaterRules — Mar 13, 2014 The both ED and RA get some raving reviews.    

Huh?

For Mesa Boogie owners those are clearly abbreviations for Royal Atlantic, and ElectroDyne.  This is not the ED you are familiar with.   ;D

DreamTheaterRules — Mar 13, 2014For Mesa Boogie owners those are clearly abbreviations for Royal Atlantic, and ElectroDyne.  This is not the ED you are familiar with.   ;D

Nor the ordering of words and grammar that I'm familiar with!

Perhaps he meant to say "Both the E.D. and R.A. are getting some rave reviews" instead?  :D

This is "forumspeak."  I belong to the Boogie Board and there and at The Gear Page people always abbreviate the amps RA, ED etc.  Do I have to teach you everything???    ;D ;D

Here, I fixed it for you grammar prefessionals.  

For those fortunate enough to own Mesa Boogie amps,  those are clearly abbreviations for Royal Atlantic, and ElectroDyne.  This is not the ED with which you are familiar.  

May I point out that this is neither the Boogie Board or the Gear Page (which is usually filled with pompous asses who talk like douches because they probably still live in their Mom's basement and want to sound FAR more important than they really are).  ;)

Normal English is a much better form of communication for those that might have an interest in what you're trying to say.  :)

DreamTheaterRules — Mar 13, 2014For Mesa Boogie owners those are clearly abbreviations for Royal Atlantic, and ElectroDyne.  This is not the ED you are familiar with.   ;D

thread title...

For you guys who don't have a Mesa amp

;D

Man am I tempted for that pedal, clean boost and programmable EQ. Along with Boogie distortion. Oh my my, $299 at Sweetwater. Howie you is costing me money on this one.... GAS GAS GAS.....

Sorry about the unclear abbreviations. And... The thread title was about the pedals, but that post s about amps Mr Kabala is already interested in, hence my abbreviations.   :)

DBM, the regular version without the graphic EQ sounds great for $100 less.  

I'm so in love with the tones I get. From my Mesa Mini Rec, that i am buying another one next week, and am seriously considering selling off some gear to fund a Mark V

No worries! I knew what ED and RA was short for right off. And yep, long since known about the word on them as well! I played and almost pulled the trigger on a RA last year when GC began blowing out their Mesa stuff. Both of those amps are discontinued ironically. >:( The V is pricey but I suppose it's loaded with many different tones so it may be worth it. I've read numerous times though from die hard Boogie users that if you happen to be after one for LEADS only, the IV still outshines the V. Anyways, that's all subjective. I'm pretty damn giddy with my amps, no real gas/need for anything else. I have a Rivera Rake, Cameron modded 2203 and a Soldano SLO 100. That said ( ;D ), for the right price/deal, I wouldn't turn down one of those Mesa's, a stock JMP, or another Budda.

Howie, I listened to the clips, and the distortion sounded Gawd awful truth be told, at least to my ears. I would want the boost, and the EQ parts only, the distortions would never be used at all. I use only tube distortion stomps, they sound like a real amp turned up (almost not some fuzzy simulation like that clip) Anyways the clip turned my GAS to mild interest, then after thinking about it, no interest at all. I would rather buy a Graphic EQ pedal with clean boost for less money. Or simply bag the Fender Noiseless pups in my Agile Strat Clone and put in mini humbuckers like the Duncan Little 59'ers and Jeff Beck Jr's. The Jr in the bridge and the little 59'ers middle and neck, about the same price as the Mesa pedal. The only reason I would buy the boost EQ pedal is for the Strat clone, I don't need anything like that for my other guitars. So after thinking about it, no ceegar. I was never into fuzz tones or distortion stomps, even in the early days. If it ain't got tubes in it I don't need it for distortion..... (I know you metal lovers like that kind of grainy distortions and that is OK, every one likes the tones they like). No problemo to me. I like that smooth Santana like overdrive tone which only comes from tubes (as far as I can tell anyways) Many hi gain amps have a clipping diode in them which gives that metal overdrive sound (which is what that Mesa pedal sounded like). I prefer a pure tube tone without that clipping diode.

DreamTheaterRules — Mar 14, 2014and am seriously considering selling off some gear to fund a Mark V

Now you are talking, the only thing is with the Mesas, I would void the warantee right away and make the thing adjustable for the power tube BIASing. Otherwise all of my Mesas sounded too cold unless they were turned way up. I had three Boogies, a Mark IIC+ a Mark 4, and a Quad Preamp with Strategy 400 power amp, and a Lonestar Classic. I loved all of them when they were turned up to band levels. But for living room use they were too cold sounding for my taste. But that Mark V is real tempting looking.

I find that changing the tubes and BIASING the amps really help with that cold sound. The one thing about the Mark V that really interests me is the rectifier tube inclusion. With the rectifier tube you can substitute a lower gain version to give a little sag which is a sound that I like. Sag is cool to a certain degree.

That *looks* really cool--took me a minute to figure out that it's a distortion box, I thought it was just the Mesa EQ with a boost.  But I have to agree with dbm, watching the video, that is some shitty ass distortion.  It took a beautiful sounding clean amp -- and that amp sounded amazing -- and turned it into a mid-80's Crate solid state cheesegrater distortion combo.  I've been impressed by Mesa pedals in the past. This is the first one that I think sounds truly awful...

The Mesa vid was a poor demo and I'm surprised they put it on their site.  I've heard demo's of that pedal without EQ that sounded great.  Very close to a well dialed in Mesa.  That is the scooped buzzy mess that people hear and it makes them not like Mesa.  Trust me, or more likely to expect, ask Paul.  The mini is an awesome sounding amp and you can't even make it sound that buzzy.  The demo had mids down AND the 750 notch almost all the way down.  Petrucci has done a demo showing an almost similar EQ setup on his Mark V, but that is with a Mark IV tone, and with his guitar which has pickups that have a lot of mids.  

The Mini is an awesome amp.  I'm getting another Mesa on Monday (not a Mark V, that would require selling some things) and rumor has it that so is someone else here. so there will be more Mesa love to come.   :)  

back to the pedals, I'll keep an eye out for a demo that shows the smoother Mesa tone with this pedal and some nice tight rhythm sounds.    And, they are offering the EQ version of the lower gain pedals as well as you see.  

Yeah those demos are hideous.  The only one that sounds good is the Flux + EQ.  For some reason Mesa does not do well with high gain demos, IMO.  It's like they make these really great amps but don't know how to use them :)

RectoZilla — Mar 14, 2014Yeah those demos are hideous.  The only one that sounds good is the Flux + EQ.  For some reason Mesa does not do well with high gain demos, IMO.  It's like they make these really great amps but don't know how to use them :)

Like Leo Fender, who didn't play guitar.

charger — Mar 17, 2014

Like Leo Fender, who didn't play guitar.

Yeah, but he was a manufacturing genius, he figured out how to make guitars on the cheap. Back in the day a strat cost 3 hundred bucks retail same with a tele. You could buy them slightly used in the early 60's for a hundred fifty bucks. I know I had several of them back then, and sold them for near the same price. At the same time the Gibsons were about $600 and up. So Leo did not play that is true, but he sure made electric guitars accessible.....

Here are some quotes from guys on the Strat Talk Forum

My parents bought me a brand new strat in 1964. I was 13 years old and my guitar teacher at the time talked them into an "expensive" Fender Stratocaster because he thought I showed some real talent. So, I still have that thing. All original, nothing ever replaced on it. Hardly any playing on it since 1971. I wish I would have kept the original tag and reciept. But I do distinctly remember that the price was $289. Man, how times change, huh?

Here is another;

Way cool. I had a '63 in the early 70's that I bought with my lawnmower money for 100 American dollars. Wish I still had it!

I reap solace in the '61 I recently acquired ... but it was more than 100 bucks.