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The products, the playing and the presentation - NOICE! :)
(Just don't look at his eyes - LOL! :D )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TolmmTn36YHey Charger, can you make these? ;)
Nope. I don't think anyone's going to be cloning these any time soon. It's an extremely complex circuit, with two separate circuit boards stuck together and a bunch of surface mount parts. Plus all the jfets and biasing scheme are stuck into an incredible goop soapbar. If you like this pedal, I suggest buying it. Enough people have been displeased with it that some of them have already been showing up for sale used.
There are several other layouts based on the Bogner Ecstasy that I can build... perhaps the best received is the "seventh heaven".
Yep, I agree, everything is top notch here. I've watched that particular clip several times in fact over the last month or so, dude is a brilliant player/writer. This clip along with the 'Jeff Marshall' vid/demo for that pedal are the two that basically sold me on it...I actually went to my local GC just this weekend to play one (the RED) - they were sold out, lol.
I've been super interested in these pedals but couldn't decide which to get. blue for uberschall's clean channel... red or black would be interesting with the THD amps.
Thought about just getting all three... but that's ~ $850 for pedals.
So I'm deciding whether to do that or just go all out and buy a new amp (Goldfinger... or maybe Shiva) instead. lol.
Damn, here we go again. Just saw somenother demos of the blue pedal and that has a great just breaking up sound that cleans up nicely and growls nicely when you dig in.
yeah, the bogner demos are really good too if you haven't seen them.
thinking I might try the blue... but could just be due to the GAS feedback loop in this thread! ;)
The blue sounds nice but I think the red is the most versatile. Nice of them to not include those in one pedal... double the profits!
By the way, these run internally off almost 30 volts. The design is pretty killer.
Damn, these pedals are £249 each here UK...that's approx $400 EACH !!! They must be laughing all the way to the bank !
Wow! like I needed more GAS....
I've heard many demos and thing the blue is great, but I'd probably lean towards the Red first. (Imagine that. Me wanting the higher gain model! LOL). However, if you look around, some people are in LOVE with the Uber, and several have even said that although it was designed for super high gain, that it can be the most versatile of the three.
It's hard for even me to spend this much on a pedal. I have some GREAT pedals. If this thing is that great it would be knocking some seriously good stuff off my board. In the past, I would have had to sell probably 3 pedals just to get the cash to try one of these. Thank goodness I can afford to just get one now and then if it's not "better" I can sell it, and if it is, it won't hurt so bad to sell off a few and recoup the cash.
My issue is, I am torn between a 5150 III and a Mini Rec. These pedals are for guys with clean amp + pedal setups. I don't see many guys who have great gain channels spending $300 on a distortion pedal. If I buy EITHER of those amps, I would definitely be able to sell a few pedals as I wouldn't need them. And this would probably be a pedal I wouldn't need with either of those amps. But if I just go pedals with the Tweaker, this would save me $$$ on the new amp. I need a bigger music room! LOL (And more TIME to play all this stuff!)
DreamTheaterRules — Jan 29, 2013I would have had to sell probably 3 pedals just to get the cash to try one of these.
But that would only leave you with 257 "real" pedals and 42 Metals Zones! ;D
Jon — Jan 28, 2013Damn, these pedals are £249 each here UK...that's approx $400 EACH !!! They must be laughing all the way to the bank !
They are pricey and Bogner has plenty to grin about over these. It's a trade off obviously. His sales may dip a bit on his boo-tique priced amps now but he'll sell a boat load of these pedals. We're basically getting a mighty close representation of the staple Bogner tones at a fraction of the amps cost, that's the way I'm looking at in anyway. I can finally stop dreaming ($) about someday owning a Shiva or Ectasy. The Red pedal into a good clean head sounds close enough for me. GAS. :)
Have you had the chance to play one, D?
somebody get one already dammit! :D I have to wait a month before i can make any GAS reduction purchases...
I think Kabala is our man! GO Derek, Go Derek! ;D
LOL. Well, like I said, I was prepared this past weekend, money in hand at GC! Went there just to sample the Red...they said they sold the last one the day before, pfft!
This is one of those items I gotta hear in person so I'm just gonna have to wait until the next batch shows up. But yes, kinda gassing hard for this pedal, I really love the tone in that Jeff Marshall vid, has soooo much character.
I'm not sure these would make me not want a Bogner... for me, the magic in a Bogner is the unification of preamp, eq, and power section. The Bogner Shiva with 6L6... that is not a sound you can put in a pedal. That to me is the best amp I've ever played. I'm really intrigued by the new lower wattage stuff Bogner's putting out, the Palermo, Panama, etc.
I resist all GAS these days as I know I won't be truly happy with whatever new toy I buy as it never quite gets the sound that I want. I have only ever achieved the sound that I truly want at the rehearsal rooms near where I live, and that is with a marshall amp crannked all the way up....actually almost any amp cranked all the way up gets 'my sound'....not too much distortion just let the amp try to explode by running everything all the way up, and that includes the volume with no hotplate etc. it's just pure brute force that gets the sound, sheer volume. There is something really magical that happens when huge amounts of voulume are at play. All the fizzies dissappear completely, tons of sustain without much distortion just because of the volume resonating the guitar body etc. All good trouser flapping stuff. The next toy that I will buy will be a fully sound proofed room with an amp and a few mics in it leading back to the control room where I will play from with the amp running at full whack.
Not wasting any more cash on pedals that are "nearly" there.
Jon — Jan 30, 2013I resist all GAS these days as I know I won't be truly happy with whatever new toy I buy as it never quite gets the sound that I want. I have only ever achieved the sound that I truly want at the rehearsal rooms near where I live, and that is with a marshall amp crannked all the way up....actually almost any amp cranked all the way up gets 'my sound'....not too much distortion just let the amp try to explode by running everything all the way up, and that includes the volume with no hotplate etc. it's just pure brute force that gets the sound, sheer volume. There is something really magical that happens when huge amounts of voulume are at play. All the fizzies dissappear completely, tons of sustain without much distortion just because of the volume resonating the guitar body etc. All good trouser flapping stuff. The next toy that I will buy will be a fully sound proofed room with an amp and a few mics in it leading back to the control room where I will play from with the amp running at full whack.
Not wasting any more cash on pedals that are "nearly" there.
<Eric Idle voice on>Aww... You're no fun anymore... :D
A great, nearly there pedal is one thing, yeah, but we're talkin a great pedal INTO a nice, tube driven loud amp. Been done before. Proven it can sound fantastic. I'm in for that Red myself if it sounds as good in person as many are saying.
Unfortunately, anything played at lower volumes is only an approximation at best since our ears hear things differently at different volume levels (that good 'ol Fletcher-Munson curve).
As an extension of that, anything that sounds great at low volumes will sound like crap turned up! ;)
Oops, Kabala, i replied to you last post without remembering the prior one
http://www.bogneramplification.com/mobile-media/171-blue-pedal-recorded-direct-into-pc-no-amp-or-speaker-used
More fuel for those having GAS...
Sounds great. Noted that IF the pic is accurate of the settings when the recording was done, the gain is cranked all the way and the boost is on. It is with single coils, but I thought it had more gain in the other vids I saw.
Looks like Shawn Abrams aka spaivxx picked one of these up... saw it on facebook.
charger — Feb 01, 2013Looks like Shawn Abrams aka spaivxx picked one of these up... saw it on facebook.
He didn't happen to mention what he'd be running it in front of, did he?
Looks like he got another new head, one of those new Jet City JCA20HV's.