#1 · Aug 17, 2011 07:32 UTC
Unbelievable how someone can be so cruel to an animal. What kind of assholes could ever do this in the name of fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzCXRSrJKz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzCXRSrJKz0
#2 · Aug 17, 2011 07:45 UTC
Lotta sadistic fux in the world. Manimal is not finished baking yet.
#3 · Aug 17, 2011 16:58 UTC
I almost threw up watching that. And didn't watch it all... Where's my fucking baseball bat? >:(
#4 · Aug 17, 2011 17:03 UTC
being a dog lover, I'm warning others not to watch this. I wish I hadn't but didn't know for sure what was going to happen and then watched a bit in disbelief. I'd like to introduce those piece of shit kids to the doberman I had!
#5 · Aug 17, 2011 18:03 UTC
I've been thinking about this all day long since I first saw it and it really saddens me beyond belief. I just cannot get my head around this how anyone in any state of mind could think that this was a good thing to do or was good for a laugh or whatever reason they did it. These people (or kids in fact I think in the video) are just absolute pieces of shit and I sincerely hope that something really bad befalls each one of them. Lost for words really...
#6 · Aug 17, 2011 18:23 UTC
yeah, I can't get the image of that poor dog out of my head. I wish I'd never watched it. :'(
#7 · Aug 17, 2011 21:23 UTC
I didn't get past the warning frame. Humans can be fuck'd, we regularly set each other on fire... and then there's flamethrowers and napalm bombs etc...
#8 · Aug 17, 2011 22:59 UTC
I just tried to view it and it said it was removed. Probably a good thing after reading your post.
#9 · Aug 18, 2011 15:37 UTC
trust me, it's a good thing. You'd be sorry if you watched it.
#10 · Aug 18, 2011 20:50 UTC
I don't know what was on the video and I'm pretty sure I don't want to know. My stance is that any human that abuses an animal (except to kill it quickly for food - just as nature does anyway), should be taken out and abused themselves. Animals don't know the difference between right and wrong (only a vague notion of action/reward/punishment), but humans defintely should.
You don't have to watch Criminal Minds to know that anyone who abuses or kills an animal for fun will soon graduate to doing the same to humans. What's really sad is that whoever was in the video will probably harm or kill another human before anything ever happens to them. We're left to hope that they're stopped after the first one they attack...
You don't have to watch Criminal Minds to know that anyone who abuses or kills an animal for fun will soon graduate to doing the same to humans. What's really sad is that whoever was in the video will probably harm or kill another human before anything ever happens to them. We're left to hope that they're stopped after the first one they attack...
#11 · Aug 18, 2011 22:52 UTC
CraigBert — Aug 18, 2011I don't know what was on the video and I'm pretty sure I don't want to know. My stance is that any human that abuses an animal (except to kill it quickly for food - just as nature does anyway), should be taken out and abused themselves. Animals don't know the difference between right and wrong (only a vague notion of action/reward/punishment), but humans defintely should.
You don't have to watch Criminal Minds to know that anyone who abuses or kills an animal for fun will soon graduate to doing the same to humans. What's really sad is that whoever was in the video will probably harm or kill another human before anything ever happens to them. We're left to hope that they're stopped after the first one they attack...
I don't think continued abuse would solve the problem.
Your kidding right? You think that someone who shoots blackbirds, (crows) purely for sport will end up killing humans for sport also?
Don't you think killing a nuisance cat is a little different than killing (another animal) a human being?
#12 · Aug 18, 2011 22:53 UTC
If someone's dog bitt my leg, should the punishment be for the human to bite the dog back? ;D ;D
If a dog kills a human, should the dog get the same in return?
If a dog kills a human, should the dog get the same in return?
#13 · Aug 18, 2011 23:19 UTC
Ok, let's look at your replies one by one. There's a thing you're doing in a couple of your examples called a logical fallacy which tries to equate something not said to the subject.
#1 - Shooting crows "for fun." Yes, this could escalate to larger animals or even other humans. Crows have a very important job to do in Nature and should be left to do it.
#2 - Killing a "nuisance" cat. Really? Ok, let's say that somehow that animal really is a nuisance and must be killed. If the animal is quickly and (as far as we know) painlessly euthanized, i.e., given the usual lethal injection that most vets do, then this isn't even the same topic which is basically torturing and killing animals for fun.
#3 - If a dog kills a human it will, unfortunately, probably have the same fate as #2 but, except for unhealthy dogs like those with rabies, it was a human that taught the animal to be aggresive or put the animal into the position to kill. Again, this has nothing to do with torturing or killing animals for fun.
To put it into a more concise fashion: I'm not talking about killing for food or survival, but needless (and sick) enjoyment.
#1 - Shooting crows "for fun." Yes, this could escalate to larger animals or even other humans. Crows have a very important job to do in Nature and should be left to do it.
#2 - Killing a "nuisance" cat. Really? Ok, let's say that somehow that animal really is a nuisance and must be killed. If the animal is quickly and (as far as we know) painlessly euthanized, i.e., given the usual lethal injection that most vets do, then this isn't even the same topic which is basically torturing and killing animals for fun.
#3 - If a dog kills a human it will, unfortunately, probably have the same fate as #2 but, except for unhealthy dogs like those with rabies, it was a human that taught the animal to be aggresive or put the animal into the position to kill. Again, this has nothing to do with torturing or killing animals for fun.
To put it into a more concise fashion: I'm not talking about killing for food or survival, but needless (and sick) enjoyment.
#14 · Aug 18, 2011 23:58 UTC
People who do shit like this usually have been abused... or privileged, which can be an abuse itself. Sometimes both, then watchout! Themz people think they have a free pass on everyone. Sometimes they do.
Some people are just assholes.
Some people are just assholes.
#15 · Aug 19, 2011 00:26 UTC
CraigBert — Aug 18, 2011Ok, let's look at your replies one by one. There's a thing you're doing in a couple of your examples called a logical fallacy which tries to equate something not said to the subject.
#1 - Shooting crows "for fun." Yes, this could escalate to larger animals or even other humans. Crows have a very important job to do in Nature and should be left to do it.
#2 - Killing a "nuisance" cat. Really? Ok, let's say that somehow that animal really is a nuisance and must be killed. If the animal is quickly and (as far as we know) painlessly euthanized, i.e., given the usual lethal injection that most vets do, then this isn't even the same topic which is basically torturing and killing animals for fun.
#3 - If a dog kills a human it will, unfortunately, probably have the same fate as #2 but, except for unhealthy dogs like those with rabies, it was a human that taught the animal to be aggressive or put the animal into the position to kill. Again, this has nothing to do with torturing or killing animals for fun.
To put it into a more concise fashion: I'm not talking about killing for food or survival, but needless (and sick) enjoyment.
I don't think so.
#1-It's legal to shoot crows for sport, or fun, whichever term you choose to put there, because their are too many of them, so they are doing harm, actually. you got any evidence that killing a cat or dog or whatever, leads to killing humans, for fun???
#2-Would shooting a cat in the head with buckshot be painful in any way to the animal? Just wondering. You said, " My stance is that any human that abuses an animal (except to kill it quickly for food - just as nature does anyway), should be taken out and abused themselves." , so dogs should get the same kinda treatment right? A dog bites my leg, I get to hit the dog in the head with a baseball bat?
#3- Well, what about all the German Shepherd attacks that were out of the blue? You think dogs may have an aggressive tendency? Did they come from wolves?
You know, I wouldn't consider harming an animal for fun. But my neighbors in Alabama had dogs that barked all night long and wouldn't do anything about it. Period. I was out of the city limits and law enforcement couldn't do anything either. I would have enjoyed the hell out of shooting those dogs, even though the owners were as fault as well. :D
#16 · Aug 19, 2011 00:31 UTC
That is 100% the owners fault.
#17 · Aug 19, 2011 00:44 UTC
I could agree with that. But if it were legal, I'd shoot the bastards if the owners refused to quiet them after the 100th request.
#18 · Aug 19, 2011 00:52 UTC
Is he purposely not understanding? :-?
The basic opinion is this: If an animal isn't doing anything wrong, and a person tortures or kills it soley for "fun," then that person is mentally ill and has a higher chance than normal of escalating their behavior to torturing and killing humans.
That's all.
The basic opinion is this: If an animal isn't doing anything wrong, and a person tortures or kills it soley for "fun," then that person is mentally ill and has a higher chance than normal of escalating their behavior to torturing and killing humans.
That's all.
#19 · Aug 19, 2011 00:54 UTC
So Craig....
If a 5 yr old goes to Joe's house to play and their German shepherd attacks this child and kills the child.....then what? The German Shepherd breed is know to be overprotective of their family and territory. Are the owners at fault? Should they go to jail for life or be put to death for owning this animal and allowing a child to come to their house?
If a 5 yr old goes to Joe's house to play and their German shepherd attacks this child and kills the child.....then what? The German Shepherd breed is know to be overprotective of their family and territory. Are the owners at fault? Should they go to jail for life or be put to death for owning this animal and allowing a child to come to their house?
#20 · Aug 19, 2011 01:01 UTC
Um, YES, the owners are the ones at fault and, yes, they should have to deal with some sort of legal retribution. They'll also have to live with the fact that their ignorance or incompetence caused the death of a child.
Animals in the wild set boundaries (usually scent based using scat or urine) and other animals know not to cross them unless they intend to start a fight. Unfortunately, humans blissfully put up both their own barriers and make rules and then add animals that have no knowledge of those barriers or rules, then the humans scratch their heads when the animal does something that they don't expect (even if it's completely natural to the animal).
Animals in the wild set boundaries (usually scent based using scat or urine) and other animals know not to cross them unless they intend to start a fight. Unfortunately, humans blissfully put up both their own barriers and make rules and then add animals that have no knowledge of those barriers or rules, then the humans scratch their heads when the animal does something that they don't expect (even if it's completely natural to the animal).
#21 · Aug 19, 2011 01:02 UTC
Statement #1
"You don't have to watch Criminal Minds to know that anyone who abuses or kills an animal for fun will soon graduate to doing the same to humans."
Statement #2
"If an animal isn't doing anything wrong, and a person tortures or kills it soley for "fun," then that person is mentally ill and has a higher chance than normal of escalating their behavior to torturing and killing humans."
What makes you think that? Can you convince me that this, your 2 statements, are they facts? Or opinion?
"You don't have to watch Criminal Minds to know that anyone who abuses or kills an animal for fun will soon graduate to doing the same to humans."
Statement #2
"If an animal isn't doing anything wrong, and a person tortures or kills it soley for "fun," then that person is mentally ill and has a higher chance than normal of escalating their behavior to torturing and killing humans."
What makes you think that? Can you convince me that this, your 2 statements, are they facts? Or opinion?
#22 · Aug 19, 2011 01:04 UTC
If you actually copied the entire sentence I wrote then you wouldn't need to ask about #2 and, just for your benefit, let's just say that #1 is also my opinion. If I had the time (I don't) I'm pretty sure I could find clinical evidence to support #1.
#23 · Aug 19, 2011 01:18 UTC
CraigBert — Aug 19, 2011Um, YES, the owners are the ones at fault and, yes, they should have to deal with some sort of legal retribution. They'll also have to live with the fact that their ignorance or incompetence caused the death of a child.
Animals in the wild set boundaries (usually scent based using scat or urine) and other animals know not to cross them unless they intend to start a fight. Unfortunately, humans blissfully put up both their own barriers and make rules and then add animals that have no knowledge of those barriers or rules, then the humans scratch their heads when the animal does something that they don't expect (even if it's completely natural to the animal).
So why should you have a dog breed that could kill in a protective mode of some kind, for no lagit reason, running freely in a home with strangers coming in and out from time to time? this would be much worse than owning a gun, for example, right? You have no control over the dog. If it's a know fact that German Shepherds are overprotective and this could happen, and it's still legal to own the animal, why should the dogs owners be responsible for anything? Then your punishment system would be very flawed, wouldn't it? What kind of legal retribution could bring back a child? And killing back the dog, but other people have the same dog in the same situations like a bomb set ready to go off.....are just fine. :D
#24 · Aug 19, 2011 01:33 UTC
CraigBert — Aug 19, 2011If you actually copied the entire sentence I wrote then you wouldn't need to ask about #2 and, just for your benefit, let's just say that #1 is also my opinion. If I had the time (I don't) I'm pretty sure I could find clinical evidence to support #1.
I'm just sayin....to make those type of statements is ridiculous without providing some sort of factual data to back up your statements. They sound insane.
I've killed plenty of misquotes and it didn't make me want to kill birds.
#25 · Aug 19, 2011 01:40 UTC
Hookbender — Aug 19, 2011I've killed plenty of misquotes
Yes you have. heh heh
#26 · Aug 19, 2011 02:15 UTC
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The insect, "misquote". Thats funny as hell. ;D ;D
#27 · Aug 19, 2011 02:25 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahmer
#28 · Aug 19, 2011 03:21 UTC
;D ;D
What does that mean? Abuse of dead animals is included in Craigs theory? ;D
What does that mean? Abuse of dead animals is included in Craigs theory? ;D
#29 · Aug 19, 2011 03:26 UTC
More than 60 percent wet their beds beyond the age of 12.
Many are fascinated with fire setting.
They are involved in sadistic activity or torturing animals.
They were frequently bullied as children.
Some were involved in petty crimes, such as theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses.
#30 · Aug 19, 2011 07:49 UTC
Just to put this into context for those that didn't see the video, some kids doused the dog in petrol all over and then set fire to it and watched it run around in a ball of flames until it finally gave up. There is absolutely no justification for it just as there is no justification for any kind of killing animals for sport either.
#31 · Aug 19, 2011 12:40 UTC
Dahmer immediately came to mind... but I suppose it doesn't fit the circumstances exactly.
so, try this instead:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/188677.pdf
if you'd prefer the summary:
so, try this instead:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/188677.pdf
if you'd prefer the summary:
#32 · Aug 19, 2011 14:42 UTC
Interesting PDF, well worth reading. The only thing I would say with studies of this nature, which is particularly true in the UK, is that governments spend a huge amount of money and time on investigating the "probable" causes of crime, but do fuck all with the information that they gather to attempt to reverse the trend.
The biggest joke of all is when a government survey concludes that children from poor backgrounds where the father is either absent most of the time or is not around at all are more likely to commit crimes than other groups... Really? well I would never have guessed that, and they spend a fortune on this sort of stuff that is absolute common sense....doesn't need an inquiry to conclude that !
The biggest joke of all is when a government survey concludes that children from poor backgrounds where the father is either absent most of the time or is not around at all are more likely to commit crimes than other groups... Really? well I would never have guessed that, and they spend a fortune on this sort of stuff that is absolute common sense....doesn't need an inquiry to conclude that !
#33 · Aug 19, 2011 16:42 UTC
heh yeah, there must be a Bureau of the Obvious somewhere doing those studies!
I was more concerned about them when "millions" was a lot of money. :\
I was more concerned about them when "millions" was a lot of money. :\
#34 · Aug 19, 2011 18:03 UTC
Hookbender — Aug 19, 2011So Craig....
If a 5 yr old goes to Joe's house to play and their German shepherd attacks this child and kills the child.....then what? The German Shepherd breed is know to be overprotective of their family and territory. Are the owners at fault? Should they go to jail for life or be put to death for owning this animal and allowing a child to come to their house?
Dude, Craig's post was totally clear. If you torture an animal, or kill an animal for fun, you are a fucking sociopath or on your way to it. There's really nothing you can say to change that.
#35 · Aug 20, 2011 02:33 UTC
I'm not trying to change what he said. I'd like to see evidence that proves if a human kills a animal, he is likely to do the same to humans in the future.
Leave the emotions out of it, take a deep breath, and think about what your saying. There is a huge difference in killing a cat vs killing a human being. I kill every roach I see and it hasn't escalated to animals, and then humans.
Yeah, from a moral standpoint, it pretty sick to go around pouring gas on a dog and catching it on fire. But that doesn't mean in 5 years that person is gonna do the same to a human being. And if a person abuses an animal, should there punishment be to be abused themselves? That wouldn't solve anything. That's ridiculous. If a man rapes a woman should you automatically rape him back as punishment? What happened to trying to understand the person's mental problem and trying to fix that?
Does a dog, cat, or fish deserve the same rights as humans? Are people who fish sick in the head if they don't keep their catch and eat it? Should all sharks be slaughtered because a few attacked and harmed humans? Is the fix for sharks attacks to catch a shark and bite it back? ;D
Leave the emotions out of it, take a deep breath, and think about what your saying. There is a huge difference in killing a cat vs killing a human being. I kill every roach I see and it hasn't escalated to animals, and then humans.
Yeah, from a moral standpoint, it pretty sick to go around pouring gas on a dog and catching it on fire. But that doesn't mean in 5 years that person is gonna do the same to a human being. And if a person abuses an animal, should there punishment be to be abused themselves? That wouldn't solve anything. That's ridiculous. If a man rapes a woman should you automatically rape him back as punishment? What happened to trying to understand the person's mental problem and trying to fix that?
Does a dog, cat, or fish deserve the same rights as humans? Are people who fish sick in the head if they don't keep their catch and eat it? Should all sharks be slaughtered because a few attacked and harmed humans? Is the fix for sharks attacks to catch a shark and bite it back? ;D
#36 · Aug 20, 2011 02:47 UTC
Hookbender — Aug 20, 2011 I kill every roach I see and it hasn't escalated to animals, and then humans.
The point you seem to be intentionally (I hope) missing is the difference between killing for food or survival and killing for fun. When you're killing roaches it's a survival issue since the diseases they carry can make you or others around you very sick. You're not doing it for fun. Since the first part of the statement isn't true (killing for fun), you can't extend it to the second (escalating to animals and then humans).
Capiche?
#37 · Aug 20, 2011 12:11 UTC
CraigBert — Aug 20, 2011[quote author=Hookbender link=1313566373/25#34 date=1313807591] I kill every roach I see and it hasn't escalated to animals, and then humans.
The point you seem to be intentionally (I hope) missing is the difference between killing for food or survival and killing for fun. When you're killing roaches it's a survival issue since the diseases they carry can make you or others around you very sick. You're not doing it for fun. Since the first part of the statement isn't true (killing for fun), you can't extend it to the second (escalating to animals and then humans).
Capiche?
Look, I've hunted crow before, killed a bunch of them, and I don't kill humans. :D And, it was fun. I damn sure didn't eat the things. I enjoy fishing. Most of the time I don't keep what I catch, and sometimes the fish die from being hooked in the throat. It was fun catching them, I don't decide to kill humans after that.
And your punishment theory is flawed also. It would be much more effective to address the mental problem, or just problem of the particular person, before you abuse the person.
I didn't see the video your talking about or you formed your opinion from, but after reading your post and others, I assume its extreme cases. Surely what happened in the video isn't a common occurrence. And, since I didn't see the video, I'm not real emotional about the subject and can be somewhat more objective in my opinion, it seems.
I don't agree with killing animals for fun, in most cases, but I find it hard to believe that killing an animal for fun, especially if the person is a kid, automatically suggest a mental problem and also the punishment should be the kid be abused himself.
It seems this video alone has formed your opinion on the subject and your unable to think seriously about what your saying.
It's kinda the same thing that happens to a kid when his parents tell him to believe in Jesus and if he doesn't he will go to hell. The child doesn't know better and just believes and it's hard to get him to look at the other side of the argument.
I'm convinced that this video is of the extreme in nature, probably very cruel, but in know way should it form your opinion of punishment, or overall opinion of hurting animals in any way. And if it is a mental problem, doctors would surely disagree with your punishment system. Science would disagree. Mental problems, in the extreme cases, if in fact it were a mental problem, should and can be treated. Not punished. Even if the killing were done for fun. The "fun" part, from my standpoint, is kinda irrelevant.
Your stance on this is a knee jerk reaction full of emotion and goes against science and everything we've learned about treatment over the last 50 plus years. I know some people like animals, but I would put your view on this in the extreme category.
#38 · Aug 20, 2011 12:34 UTC
You eat crow all the time. heh heh
#39 · Aug 20, 2011 18:37 UTC
neverfuckingmind.
#40 · Aug 21, 2011 14:56 UTC
BINGEWOOD — Aug 20, 2011You eat crow all the time. heh heh
You speak crow, period.
#41 · Aug 21, 2011 15:40 UTC
BINGEWOOD — Aug 20, 2011You eat crow all the time. heh heh
Oh shit, Hooky just got pwned.
(again)
;)
Tripper
#42 · Aug 21, 2011 20:45 UTC
#43 · Aug 21, 2011 21:41 UTC
An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. The religious argument used again. Sad.
You folks really don't like it when I'm right, do you? :D
You folks really don't like it when I'm right, do you? :D
#44 · Aug 21, 2011 23:38 UTC
"I like it when you use my invention!!!"
#45 · Aug 22, 2011 00:45 UTC
Hookbender — Aug 21, 2011You folks really don't like it when I'm right, do you? :D
I doubt we'd really care but, out of curiousity, when do you think this actually happen? (Certainly not in this thread.) ;)
#46 · Aug 22, 2011 15:49 UTC
Hook, all I'm saying is, if you saw this, and weren't disturbed to the point of illness, I'm worried about you. (I realize you didn't see it). I literally had to close my door after I watched it because it brought tears to my eyes... followed by enough anger that I would have beaten the crap out of the kids if I'd seen them do it, then I was literally sick at my stomach for hours. Look at my remarks. I don't talk like that unless I'm fuming mad.
yes, I'm a dog lover. This was an innocent little puppy, not an insect. Like I said, I'd like to have introduced these POS boys to my old dog Luger. Two words and they'd get what they deserved. We'd see if they ever messed with a little puppy again! >:( >:( Your arguments are ill conceived, as there is is no comparison of squashing a bug, and many birds are hunted. This was TORTURING an innocent puppy to DEATH, in probably the most excruciatingly painful way possible. AND FILMING IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S COOL!
IMO, even before Sheep put up the chart, anyone sick enough to do something like this and enjoy it, is on the path to far worse things. Someone needs to find them and stop it NOW. Swiftly and with enough force to make sure that IF they walk again, they don't ever forget the punishment for what they did.
yes, I'm a dog lover. This was an innocent little puppy, not an insect. Like I said, I'd like to have introduced these POS boys to my old dog Luger. Two words and they'd get what they deserved. We'd see if they ever messed with a little puppy again! >:( >:( Your arguments are ill conceived, as there is is no comparison of squashing a bug, and many birds are hunted. This was TORTURING an innocent puppy to DEATH, in probably the most excruciatingly painful way possible. AND FILMING IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S COOL!
IMO, even before Sheep put up the chart, anyone sick enough to do something like this and enjoy it, is on the path to far worse things. Someone needs to find them and stop it NOW. Swiftly and with enough force to make sure that IF they walk again, they don't ever forget the punishment for what they did.
#47 · Aug 22, 2011 17:23 UTC
DreamTheaterRules — Aug 22, 2011Hook, all I'm saying is, if you saw this, and weren't disturbed to the point of illness, I'm worried about you. (I realize you didn't see it). I literally had to close my door after I watched it because it brought tears to my eyes... followed by enough anger that I would have beaten the crap out of the kids if I'd seen them do it, then I was literally sick at my stomach for hours. Look at my remarks. I don't talk like that unless I'm fuming mad.
yes, I'm a dog lover. This was an innocent little puppy, not an insect. Like I said, I'd like to have introduced these POS boys to my old dog Luger. Two words and they'd get what they deserved. We'd see if they ever messed with a little puppy again! >:( >:( Your arguments are ill conceived, as there is is no comparison of squashing a bug, and many birds are hunted. This was TORTURING an innocent puppy to DEATH, in probably the most excruciatingly painful way possible. AND FILMING IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S COOL!
IMO, even before Sheep put up the chart, anyone sick enough to do something like this and enjoy it, is on the path to far worse things. Someone needs to find them and stop it NOW. Swiftly and with enough force to make sure that IF they walk again, they don't ever forget the punishment for what they did.
Well said +1
#48 · Aug 22, 2011 19:51 UTC
Killing an animal, sure. Torturing an animal to death? Not ever cool. You might kill a rat or a mouse in your house with a trap, hell you might even shoot one. Would you capture it, then light it on fire while alive? Would you pull off its legs and watch it suffer and die slowly? Nail it to a fence while alive? etc, etc.
Psychopathic personalities are far, far different from you, or me, or anyone on this forum.
Psychopathic personalities are far, far different from you, or me, or anyone on this forum.
#49 · Aug 23, 2011 00:42 UTC
I'm honestly amazed at your reactions to this video, whatever it was.
Not merely the fact that you don't like animal abuse but to assign the human to the same treatment he rendered to a dog.....is quite unbelievable. Good thing us white folk have forgiving black folks, ar's we be dead fo sho. No what I mean?
When a human kills another human tomorrow, are you gonna get this worked up about that?
I can't believe you'd subject a human being to the same treatment he dished out to the animal before first, seeing if the guy actually has a mental problem, second, treating the mental problem.....before he does any more harm to a human being in the first place.
I'm shocked. Honestly.
Do you realize how cave man that sounds?
DTR is even talking violence.
I don't think I've ever witnessed such emotional responses over a dog, ever.
Not merely the fact that you don't like animal abuse but to assign the human to the same treatment he rendered to a dog.....is quite unbelievable. Good thing us white folk have forgiving black folks, ar's we be dead fo sho. No what I mean?
When a human kills another human tomorrow, are you gonna get this worked up about that?
I can't believe you'd subject a human being to the same treatment he dished out to the animal before first, seeing if the guy actually has a mental problem, second, treating the mental problem.....before he does any more harm to a human being in the first place.
I'm shocked. Honestly.
Do you realize how cave man that sounds?
DTR is even talking violence.
I don't think I've ever witnessed such emotional responses over a dog, ever.
#50 · Aug 23, 2011 01:57 UTC
Not needing to know the content, the thread title alone was enough to keep me from following any links, figured it was bad, but after reading a few posts including Jon's quick description, I kinda wish I woulda stayed away. We know it's a sick world out there, some things simply have never changed, but christ, the less I know about crappy stuff like this, the better. I actually stopped watching the evening news as of a few years ago and life has been a lot better here on my little island for it! It's the same news over and over again, from childhood right up til' now. Some nut blows himself up on a bus in Israel in the name of religion, a coach is screwing a student, some company prez is skimming from shareholders, a dude is getting carjacked right now, a woman raped, etc. And when I'm 80 it'll be the same story. Fuck it, I'd rather just not know about shit like this. Sure, I might not know who the latest hot celeb couples are but I'll survive.
Sorry for the rant! Major animal fan here and shit like this does make me sick/sad. Label that emotional, I won't lose any sleep over it as IMO, anyone searching for ways to rationalize behavior like this smacks of some other agenda. For some reason it reminds me of when Mike Vick was leaving the courthouse and being escorted to the squad car after his sentencing, there were still actually dozens of idiots outside cheering him on with sings and what not saying they loved him, didn't care what he did and they don't believe he was guilty, etc. Some people just defend for the sake of whatever, I mean the guy just plead guilty and admitted everything yet some still saw it as ok and didn't understand why he had to go to prison. It's their right to feel whatever they'd like, sure, same as here, but sick is sick, wrong is wrong and most people can recognize that and will see it for what it is. Only a very small few will simply not get it, and that is at least encouraging. And I dunno, I've seen many people get emotional when something horiffic happens to a loved one...course I no longer hear about it these days since it's been tuned out.