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Fixed the volume problem.
New link.
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/kemper-hi-gain-clip-higher
Comparing the clip on my PC to the one on Soundcloud, yikes, SC sure F's up the tone, it adds a mid honk & removes some low end thump that really bothers me...it makes me want to do the original recording with a different EQ to compensate for what happens when it's loaded onto SC...that would be crazy.
ooh, so wait a second...
if I send my amp to a hotplate and use the line out from that to the KPA, I could profile my amp without any cabinet?
assuming yes, as this seems to clearly be the case, then someone could take a totally flat reference amp and profile a ton of cabs with various mics...
could I then mix my profiled cab-less amp with these profiled cabs or is the amp/cab part of a single profile that can't be separated?
charger — Oct 25, 2011[quote author=Schneidas link=1312399097/175#184 date=1319564138][quote author=charger link=1312399097/175#177 date=1319522329]
It's not a competition, to me, between a POD HD which costs 1/4 the price and the Kemper. That's like saying you prefer a Bogner to a Peavey.
It's a question of, why buy the Kemper if you've got a couple of great sounding amps? What is the compelling argument for it? Especially when you are using it live, and not direct.
Actually, I think it kinda is a competition bro! By two devices that are made to do the same thing.
Why am I buying the KPA? Because I live in an apartment, with neighbours above, below, left and right of me. If I so much as touch the master volume on a JCM800 past 0.1 - those guys are all over me.
The PODHD is geared for home and stage use through active monitors at home, or straight into an amp or PA when playing it live.
The Kemper is basically the same thing - just with a different technique and another price philosophy.
Personally, I wish the HD cost like 200 bucks more, but had better converters, a faster DSP and more importantly, far better algorithms and cab emulations (the most obvious weak spot of the PodHD).
The Kemper has a much better DSP, better converters (so I hear) - is a solid and high quality construction and most importantly - it sounds and feels like all-tube (when the profile was professionally created).
It costs much more - but in the end, you gotta decide if you need it or if you're content with something less pricey.
I was saving up for an Axe-FX2. Well I heard the Kemper, saw that it was 700 Euros less than the Axe2 and decided that it was all I need. For my needs it fits the bill which my previous device (PodHD) failed to do
I still am not seeing the competition angle. There are a million guys who are going to pay $350 for a Mexican strat, and about 1/50th that number who are going to spend 4 times that for an American strat. Those people who can pay $350, or $500, are never going to be the guys who pay $1200 or $2000 for their strats. It's just not the same market.
The Pod HD line maxes out at $467 in the US. Kemper is what, $1600?
There's a reason that Akai and Korg and Yamaha sold 100,000 synths for every Access Virus sold... price.
If you really think the KPA and the Pod HD hit the same markets price-wise, you haven't been in a guitar store in the US.
Word.
ironsheep — Oct 26, 2011ooh, so wait a second...
if I send my amp to a hotplate and use the line out from that to the KPA, I could profile my amp without any cabinet?
assuming yes, as this seems to clearly be the case, then someone could take a totally flat reference amp and profile a ton of cabs with various mics...
could I then mix my profiled cab-less amp with these profiled cabs or is the amp/cab part of a single profile that can't be separated?
The cab can be separated, in other words 'switched off' (cab blend set to zero) from any profile, you can choose any cab & mic and attach them to any profile.
are the cab and mics you select profiles themselves? like IRs?
granted, I can do this already inside the DAW without modeling my amp (use line-out to IRs)... but just curious about the way cabs and mics are handled.
ironsheep — Oct 26, 2011are the cab and mics you select profiles themselves? like IRs?
granted, I can do this already inside the DAW without modeling my amp (use line-out to IRs)... but just curious about the way cabs and mics are handled.
To be honest I'm not sure.
I know you can't download IR's and use them in the Kemper like you can with the Axe-FX.
I guess in a round about way the cabs & mic's are 'Profiles'...when you Profile an amp with a particular mic and particular cab, the KPA through Mr Kemper's algorithm (and whatever else is happening inside the KPA's brain) the mic and cab are separated for use independently...so the different cabs and mic's are stored separately to use with whatever 'amp' profile you want.
So far I haven't changed one cab or mic for any profile, I've just stuck with whatever was used when the profile was made...my ear doesn't hear the need to change anything.
On another subject, what's also cool.
You can store preset Reverbs, delays, FX, etc and call up a preset whenever you want to.
You can also store your entire FX chain (4 slots in front of the amp block, 4 slots after, plus FX loop) as presets, and call them up as well without having to go through the entire process whenever you're tweaking a new "rig/patch".
I'm not going to continue to debate this, but I disagree. You are taking the wrong slant on this. It's not like comparing a mini van to a Porsche. Minivan-Porsche is not apples to apples. it's like comparing a mini van to a luxury SUV, or a Miata to a BMW Z4 or something. Items that do the same thing but one does it much nicer and better, but costs more. I didn't say every kid walking in GC will compare an HD to an Axe or Kemper. I said that Axe and Kemper are in competition with the HD because they build a product that does the same thing, but does it better, and costs more money. If a buyer has $2K+ to spend, he's going to look at an Axe, a Kemper and the HD. He will decide whether the Axe or Kemper is enough better to warrant the extra expense, or whether the HD is "good enough" to warrant the money saved. That is direct competition.
Just saying that a 22 year old with $400 to spend can't afford the Kemper or Axe so they aren't "competition" is not fair. hey, if the kid only has $200 to spend, he can't buy any of them. They are devices that do the same things. For those who can afford it, they are competition.
I kinda see it marketed like this:
Line 6 POD type stuff = modeling version of widely known, mass produced amp lines for the common player (like the amps you can find at GC)
Axe FX, Kemper = boutique versions for the cork sniffer fans of modeling (like the amps you will not find at GC)
I haven't been troubled to check the links out because I already own some quality stuff, and there lies the problem for them....nothing to entice me, the typical, common player who already owns several pieces of what they're trying to duplicate...and there are a lot of us out here. It doesn't matter if it sounds great and shits gold out the side, why would I have a need to add a copy machine when I already have a couple real printers for my projects? I wouldn't. Obviously I'm not their target market, right, but I AM the larger (possibly largest) market. If they don't need that but rather 'the other guys', well, I do wish them luck, always room for another niche product I guess.
Kabala — Oct 26, 2011
I kinda see it marketed like this:
Line 6 POD type stuff = modeling version of widely known, mass produced amp lines for the common player (like the amps you can find at GC)
Axe FX, Kemper = boutique versions for the cork sniffer fans of modeling (like the amps you will not find at GC)
I haven't been troubled to check the links out because I already own some quality stuff, and there lies the problem for them....nothing to entice me, the typical, common player who already owns several pieces of what they're trying to duplicate...and there are a lot of us out here. It doesn't matter if it sounds great and shits gold out the side, why would I have a need to add a copy machine when I already have a couple real printers for my projects? I wouldn't. Obviously I'm not their target market, right, but I AM the larger (possibly largest) market. If they don't need that but rather 'the other guys', well, I do wish them luck, always room for another niche product I guess.
Hey Derek, how you doing?
Was just listening to some of your songs, amazing tones, how you getting them?
Lance — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=Kabala link=1312399097/200#207 date=1319647995]
I kinda see it marketed like this:
Line 6 POD type stuff = modeling version of widely known, mass produced amp lines for the common player (like the amps you can find at GC)
Axe FX, Kemper = boutique versions for the cork sniffer fans of modeling (like the amps you will not find at GC)
I haven't been troubled to check the links out because I already own some quality stuff, and there lies the problem for them....nothing to entice me, the typical, common player who already owns several pieces of what they're trying to duplicate...and there are a lot of us out here. It doesn't matter if it sounds great and shits gold out the side, why would I have a need to add a copy machine when I already have a couple real printers for my projects? I wouldn't. Obviously I'm not their target market, right, but I AM the larger (possibly largest) market. If they don't need that but rather 'the other guys', well, I do wish them luck, always room for another niche product I guess.
Hey Derek, how you doing?
Was just listening to some of your songs, amazing tones, how you getting them?
Hey man, doin great, top of the world really! Nice to see ya back here btw. (=
Thanks for that! As for the method...I'm set in my ways now I guess...old skool baby, old skool, lol! ;)
Kabala — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=Lance link=1312399097/200#208 date=1319649602][quote author=Kabala link=1312399097/200#207 date=1319647995]
I kinda see it marketed like this:
Line 6 POD type stuff = modeling version of widely known, mass produced amp lines for the common player (like the amps you can find at GC)
Axe FX, Kemper = boutique versions for the cork sniffer fans of modeling (like the amps you will not find at GC)
I haven't been troubled to check the links out because I already own some quality stuff, and there lies the problem for them....nothing to entice me, the typical, common player who already owns several pieces of what they're trying to duplicate...and there are a lot of us out here. It doesn't matter if it sounds great and shits gold out the side, why would I have a need to add a copy machine when I already have a couple real printers for my projects? I wouldn't. Obviously I'm not their target market, right, but I AM the larger (possibly largest) market. If they don't need that but rather 'the other guys', well, I do wish them luck, always room for another niche product I guess.
Hey Derek, how you doing?
Was just listening to some of your songs, amazing tones, how you getting them?
Hey man, doin great, top of the world really! Nice to see ya back here btw. (=
Thanks for that! As for the method...I'm set in my ways now I guess...old skool baby, old skool, lol! ;)
Sorry, didn't put kabala and Schils together. :)
Well, your tones are really sweet, can't get better than that...not to mention your seriously good playing, got your CD in front of me, need to give it another listen.
In a sense the KPA is trying to connect to "old skool"...the concept is, hey, I love the Derek Schils mic'd amp tones, let's try reproduce and steal them. :)
Lance — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=ironsheep link=1312399097/200#201 date=1319627596]ooh, so wait a second...
if I send my amp to a hotplate and use the line out from that to the KPA, I could profile my amp without any cabinet?
assuming yes, as this seems to clearly be the case, then someone could take a totally flat reference amp and profile a ton of cabs with various mics...
could I then mix my profiled cab-less amp with these profiled cabs or is the amp/cab part of a single profile that can't be separated?
The cab can be separated, in other words 'switched off' (cab blend set to zero) from any profile, you can choose any cab & mic and attach them to any profile.
By the way, this is totally impossible and one of the things that really bugs me about the Kemper marketing materials.
Charger, on the Kemper site it says
The Cabinet Section
The Kemper Profiling Amplifier captures the cabinet as a part of a profile. Thanks to digital alchemy we can distinguish in between the cabinet and the amp head within a profile and therefore enable you to mix and match both in which ever way you like. Imagine you can exchange cabinets freely in between amps, even though those amps were combo amps before. You can even warp cabinets from "tiny as a cigarette box" to "larger than life" with one parameter.
That seems to be a bit at odds with your statement in the previous post ?
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/160/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guided_Tour.html
DreamTheaterRules — Oct 26, 2011I'm not going to continue to debate this, but I disagree. You are taking the wrong slant on this. It's not like comparing a mini van to a Porsche. Minivan-Porsche is not apples to apples. it's like comparing a mini van to a luxury SUV, or a Miata to a BMW Z4 or something. Items that do the same thing but one does it much nicer and better, but costs more. I didn't say every kid walking in GC will compare an HD to an Axe or Kemper. I said that Axe and Kemper are in competition with the HD because they build a product that does the same thing, but does it better, and costs more money. If a buyer has $2K+ to spend, he's going to look at an Axe, a Kemper and the HD. He will decide whether the Axe or Kemper is enough better to warrant the extra expense, or whether the HD is "good enough" to warrant the money saved. That is direct competition.
Just saying that a 22 year old with $400 to spend can't afford the Kemper or Axe so they aren't "competition" is not fair. hey, if the kid only has $200 to spend, he can't buy any of them. They are devices that do the same things. For those who can afford it, they are competition.
The wrong slant?
Seriously?
You ever sold anything? You ever bought anything? You ever been poor? 16, not had enough money to buy anything but the cheap stuff? Kemper is for people who can afford to drop 2k on a preamp... period. AxeFX was "superior" to every Pod ever, and how many has that sold, and how has that "competed" with Line6? How much did that bite into Line6's "competition"? All the AXEFX and the Kemper are going to do is provide a high-cost option to those who can afford it and want such a thing. It's not going to touch Line6's true market, which is the low end of the market.
According to their press, Line6 have sold 1,000,000 Spider amps. A MILLION. Despite the availability of more expensive, better sounding amps.
Jon — Oct 26, 2011Charger, on the Kemper site it says
The Cabinet Section
The Kemper Profiling Amplifier captures the cabinet as a part of a profile. Thanks to digital alchemy we can distinguish in between the cabinet and the amp head within a profile and therefore enable you to mix and match both in which ever way you like. Imagine you can exchange cabinets freely in between amps, even though those amps were combo amps before. You can even warp cabinets from "tiny as a cigarette box" to "larger than life" with one parameter.
That seems to be a bit at odds with your statement in the previous post ?
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/160/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guided_Tour.html
Yes, that's total bullshit. Just like alchemy (and btw, I didn't miss the irony that they actually called it "digital alchemy"--I wonder if they even got that?)
The Kemper cannot tell which part of the signal response is the amp, and which is the cabinet and mic. It's technically impossible without sampling a line out from the amp, which they are not doing. They are sampling at the mic point. So the entire combo-switching "marketing" crap is just that, complete bullshit.
Even with five or six different impulses of the same amp at the same settings with different cabs and mics it would still be a difficult and probably impossible feat. That statement, and the way they talk about the the gain knob, casts doubt for me on the intelligence of their marketing.
In my opinion they are not sampling the amp at all. They have their own built-in amp section with tone controls and distortion etc, they are simply sampling the cab via the mic. They can separate the cab from the amp because the amp is their own creation that is adjusted to conform to the eq curves etc generated by the mic.....sounds good though.
charger — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=Jon G link=1312399097/200#212 date=1319655338]Charger, on the Kemper site it says
The Cabinet Section
The Kemper Profiling Amplifier captures the cabinet as a part of a profile. Thanks to digital alchemy we can distinguish in between the cabinet and the amp head within a profile and therefore enable you to mix and match both in which ever way you like. Imagine you can exchange cabinets freely in between amps, even though those amps were combo amps before. You can even warp cabinets from "tiny as a cigarette box" to "larger than life" with one parameter.
That seems to be a bit at odds with your statement in the previous post ?
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/160/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guided_Tour.html
Yes, that's total bullshit. Just like alchemy (and btw, I didn't miss the irony that they actually called it "digital alchemy"--I wonder if they even got that?)
The Kemper cannot tell which part of the signal response is the amp, and which is the cabinet and mic. It's technically impossible without sampling a line out from the amp, which they are not doing. They are sampling at the mic point. So the entire combo-switching "marketing" crap is just that, complete bullshit.
Even with five or six different impulses of the same amp at the same settings with different cabs and mics it would still be a difficult and probably impossible feat. That statement, and the way they talk about the the gain knob, casts doubt for me on the intelligence of their marketing.
They can profile from the Line out of the amp, not just the mic point.
The gain knob is as magical as they describe it...better than on any real amp I've owned.
I don't want the gain knob to work like it does on the real amp, that's what Line 6 do and it doesn't work...why wouldn't I want a gain knob that's a few steps up in technology compared to how the gain knob works on the amp they're profiling?
Lance — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=charger link=1312399097/200#214 date=1319657698][quote author=Jon G link=1312399097/200#212 date=1319655338]Charger, on the Kemper site it says
The Cabinet Section
The Kemper Profiling Amplifier captures the cabinet as a part of a profile. Thanks to digital alchemy we can distinguish in between the cabinet and the amp head within a profile and therefore enable you to mix and match both in which ever way you like. Imagine you can exchange cabinets freely in between amps, even though those amps were combo amps before. You can even warp cabinets from "tiny as a cigarette box" to "larger than life" with one parameter.
That seems to be a bit at odds with your statement in the previous post ?
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/160/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guided_Tour.html
Yes, that's total bullshit. Just like alchemy (and btw, I didn't miss the irony that they actually called it "digital alchemy"--I wonder if they even got that?)
The Kemper cannot tell which part of the signal response is the amp, and which is the cabinet and mic. It's technically impossible without sampling a line out from the amp, which they are not doing. They are sampling at the mic point. So the entire combo-switching "marketing" crap is just that, complete bullshit.
Even with five or six different impulses of the same amp at the same settings with different cabs and mics it would still be a difficult and probably impossible feat. That statement, and the way they talk about the the gain knob, casts doubt for me on the intelligence of their marketing.
They can profile from the Line out of the amp, not just the mic point.
The gain knob is as magical as they describe it...better than on any real amp I've owned.
I don't want the gain knob to work like it does on the real amp, that's what Line 6 do and it doesn't work...why wouldn't I want a gain knob that's a few steps up in technology compared to how the gain knob works on the amp they're profiling?
Uh, because you want it to actually sound like the amp?
charger — Oct 26, 2011[quote author=Lance link=1312399097/200#216 date=1319662134][quote author=charger link=1312399097/200#214 date=1319657698][quote author=Jon G link=1312399097/200#212 date=1319655338]Charger, on the Kemper site it says
The Cabinet Section
The Kemper Profiling Amplifier captures the cabinet as a part of a profile. Thanks to digital alchemy we can distinguish in between the cabinet and the amp head within a profile and therefore enable you to mix and match both in which ever way you like. Imagine you can exchange cabinets freely in between amps, even though those amps were combo amps before. You can even warp cabinets from "tiny as a cigarette box" to "larger than life" with one parameter.
That seems to be a bit at odds with your statement in the previous post ?
http://kemper-amps.com/page/render/lang/en/p/160/do/Kemper_Profiling_Amplifier___Guided_Tour.html
Yes, that's total bullshit. Just like alchemy (and btw, I didn't miss the irony that they actually called it "digital alchemy"--I wonder if they even got that?)
The Kemper cannot tell which part of the signal response is the amp, and which is the cabinet and mic. It's technically impossible without sampling a line out from the amp, which they are not doing. They are sampling at the mic point. So the entire combo-switching "marketing" crap is just that, complete bullshit.
Even with five or six different impulses of the same amp at the same settings with different cabs and mics it would still be a difficult and probably impossible feat. That statement, and the way they talk about the the gain knob, casts doubt for me on the intelligence of their marketing.
They can profile from the Line out of the amp, not just the mic point.
The gain knob is as magical as they describe it...better than on any real amp I've owned.
I don't want the gain knob to work like it does on the real amp, that's what Line 6 do and it doesn't work...why wouldn't I want a gain knob that's a few steps up in technology compared to how the gain knob works on the amp they're profiling?
Uh, because you want it to actually sound like the amp?
It does sound exactly like the amp...if you leave the gain knob in the position it's set on the real amp during profiling.
If you never want to use the gain knob on the Kemper because you don't 'trust' it, then make 10 profiles of the amp starting with the amps gain on 1, then 2 all the way to 10...that's 10 minutes work once you have your mic's setup.
In fact almost every amp profile that comes with the Kemper, and any of the amps he profiles in the future, come with about 10 or more profiles with all different gain settings.
How many sweet spots does your tube amp have?
What's so magical about the gain knob on a tube amp, you turn it up it gets more distorted, you turn it down it cleans up, it's not rocket science.
In fact, most guitarists set their tube amps clean and add distortion pedals anyway, the gain knobs not even being used.
yeah, I guess you don't get what I'm saying. The "competition" is not "who can sell the most units." The competition is, two similar devices. One affordable but good, one more expensive. If the expensive one can convince you that it's enough better, and you can afford it, you buy it instead. Trust me, Kemper and Axe would absolutely LOVE to get a shot at every potential POD HD buyer WHO COULD AFFORD THEIR PRODUCT. They aren't trying to compete in unit sales. They are competing by making a product that DOES THE SAME THING but better, and their job is to get every potential POD HD buyer they can to "upgrade" their purchase to their product instead.
Every market has pricing variety. Premium products at a premium price, basic products are an affordable price, etc. At what point do you decide that the similar products aren't in competition anymore?
Just saying, I think this was what Chris was thinking when he made the original comment, and I agree.
If there are a range of devices from cheap to expensive AND there are definable improvements as you pay more, then everyone will probably want the most expensive item. Of course, if you can't afford the best, you may have to settle for something less but that's not saying you wouldn't get the best if you can afford it!
The Line 6 gear and it's real competitors (like Behringer) used to be all that there was so everyone who was interested in that particular technology was buying it. However, many wished, complained or suggested that they wanted better. Then the Axe-FX came out and a much higher price point. Those that could afford it bought it. How many of you here, that are interested in the Line 6 (et. al.) type technology, wouldn't buy an Axe-FX if it was the same price?
The bottom line is this: Axe-FX and Kempler became competition for Line 6 simply because they stole all of the people who could afford better.
DTR, I hear what you are saying, but I could not disagree more. When Line6 was all there was, everyone bought it. When options appeared, people jumped ship. But the people who jumped ship to the $1500 modelers are not Line6's current Pod market at all. The Pod market ends at $500. $500! That is a low-end market. That's people who want Mexi strats or Chinese mics, and think a Mackie is an expensive mixer.
I can't even make the argument that the Axe-FX is better... I have heard enough shootouts on YouTube comparing the Axe to PodHD to say it's certainly not worth $1000 more. But that's the issue here... there are people who like to pay a premium. I would not take one because I can't deal with editing on rack gear... it just makes me tired and bored. Plugging in a mic and moving it around and tweaking some knobs on the amp is super satisfying and gratifying... tweaking knobs on a piece of rack gear is the definition of not fun for me.
You can buy a Neve clone preamp for $500, the same circuit, similar parts, etc, and get 95% of the way to Neve. You can pay $2500 and buy an actual Neve channel strip, and get that extra 5%. Most people will never understand, or need, that 5%. I understand it completely, but I would never pay for it, because that's not my aesthetic. And I can afford it, but I just don't go there. I just will not pay premiums for miniscule improvements in tone. There are some people who will pay the premium for miniscule tone improvements, and those people will buy AxeFx, Kemper, and whatever else is next, and Line6, Vox, et al, are not looking for those people as customers. They are looking to move the most product at the price that gets them the best balance between COGS and wholesale, period, end of story. And it happens to sound 95% good enough for most people. Hell, through $99 recabinet software, it sounds better to me than just about anything I've heard besides real micing. So there ya go...
Lance — Oct 26, 2011
What's so magical about the gain knob on a tube amp, you turn it up it gets more distorted, you turn it down it cleans up, it's not rocket science.
In fact, most guitarists set their tube amps clean and add distortion pedals anyway, the gain knobs not even being used.
Oh my, really? The interaction between the master and gain knob on my Sovtek is far, far more complicated than that. I can get a huge range of tones, gains, breakup, and harmonic complexity from it. It cost me $350...
CraigBert — Oct 26, 2011
The bottom line is this: Axe-FX and Kempler became competition for Line 6 simply because they stole all of the people who could afford better.
I still disagree. Have you seen L6 or Vox or Boss do anything to try to win them back? No, they just keep pushing improved products at the same, or lower price points. No one who buys a $1500 modeler is going to go back to the $300 gear. But there is a large, and constantly growing group of people who can buy the $300 gear. Looking at upward mobility and wages in the US, I'd say, not so much the other way... the market for the high end is stagnant and shrinking. People are looking to save money. The big companies are not going to push more expensive products on that market... they understand the
demand side of the supply/demand equation.
I think you're simply seeing the other half of the equation Charger. Axe-FX and Kempler may be competition for Line 6, but Line 6 is NOT competition for them (in other words, Line 6 isn't stealing any customers from either Axe-FX or Kempler).
Here's an Engl Powerball profile made in a music store by some dude in Spain.
Never played real one, don't know what they sound like, makes no difference really, this sounds really good.
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11150822
Did this today...my buddy Grant playing again.
It's one of the Matchless Chieftan Profiles, profile is called "The Dirty Chief".
Only thing I did was mess with the Gain knob, turned it up then down to see how well it worked on this profile.
Played with a Fender Strat with N3 pickups and 9 gauge strings, it was laying in the studio so we used it.
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/the-chief-dirty-1
I love the tone of the Engl on solo stuff. The Chief sounds really good too.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find Lance's Soundcloud ID to be hilarious? ;D ;D
lance do you have any profiles where the speaker has been mic'd at the edge of the cone? Everything so far has too much "ice pick" for me. Not knocking it, sounds good, just too bright.
Also I would like to hear some "roomy" profiles where the mic is placed a few feet away from the amp and to one side.
Some more Matchless Chieftan.
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/the-chief-dirty-3
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/the-chief-dirty-4
Jon — Oct 27, 2011lance do you have any profiles where the speaker has been mic'd at the edge of the cone? Everything so far has to much "ice pick" for me. Not knocking it, sounds good, just too bright.
I'm only using profiles that came in the KPA.
Mic'd in Peter Fischers studio using the best mics and pre-amps...you can see the position on the Soldano Youtube video...not sure of positions on the other profiles, haven't done any myself yet....soon.
They profiles sound so perfect in front of a set of Genelec studio monitors that you dont feel the need to tweak with the settings all at 12 o;clock....then you upload to Soundcloud and the SC middy tone gets added...frustrating.
DreamTheaterRules — Oct 27, 2011I love the tone of the Engl on solo stuff. The Chief sounds really good too.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find Lance's Soundcloud ID to be hilarious? ;D ;D
lol, Tokai + Kemper = Temper + born in 59 = Temper59. :)
Me, a temper, no way!!! ;)
one more thing, is it possible to make a stereo profile, right mic close and left mic 4 feet back or is the profiling input from the mic/desk mono only?
Jon — Oct 27, 2011one more thing, is it possible to make a stereo profile, right mic close and left mic 4 feet back or is the profiling input from the mic/desk mono only?
Mono, but you can use as many mic's as you like.
One thing I've always like to do (and one reason for my current setup) is dual-amping. Usually something cleaner behind something crunchy (or better).
Can the Kemper do that natively or do you have to record the dry track and reamp? (Or, *gasp!* do you need two Kempers?)
:)
CraigBert — Oct 27, 2011One thing I've always like to do (and one reason for my current setup) is dual-amping. Usually something cleaner behind something crunchy (or better).
Can the Kemper do that natively or do you have to record the dry track and reamp? (Or, *gasp!* do you need two Kempers?)
:)
Nope, can't do dual amps.
Stop being so "Jewish", buy two Kempers. ;D
Of course you can! You can split audio with a splitter out of the kemper, recombine it at the mixer with as many mics as you can, submix it down to a single bus, and send that back into the Kemper. Unless you were really really good with phase, it would sound like shit though.
Lance — Oct 27, 2011[quote author=CraigBert link=1312399097/225#234 date=1319743269]One thing I've always like to do (and one reason for my current setup) is dual-amping. Usually something cleaner behind something crunchy (or better).
Can the Kemper do that natively or do you have to record the dry track and reamp? (Or, *gasp!* do you need two Kempers?)
:)
Nope, can't do dual amps.
Stop being so "Jewish", buy two Kempers. ;D
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=393779&title=jew-them-up-
BINGEWOOD — Oct 27, 2011[quote author=Lance link=1312399097/225#235 date=1319748310][quote author=CraigBert link=1312399097/225#234 date=1319743269]One thing I've always like to do (and one reason for my current setup) is dual-amping. Usually something cleaner behind something crunchy (or better).
Can the Kemper do that natively or do you have to record the dry track and reamp? (Or, *gasp!* do you need two Kempers?)
:)
Nope, can't do dual amps.
Stop being so "Jewish", buy two Kempers. ;D
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=393779&title=jew-them-up-LMFAO!!! 8-)
charger — Oct 27, 2011Of course you can! You can split audio with a splitter out of the kemper, recombine it at the mixer with as many mics as you can, submix it down to a single bus, and send that back into the Kemper. Unless you were really really good with phase, it would sound like shit though.
Yes, I know all that but I was interested in if it could create a stereo profile.
Lance — Oct 27, 2011[quote author=DreamTheaterRules link=1312399097/225#227 date=1319734283]I love the tone of the Engl on solo stuff. The Chief sounds really good too.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find Lance's Soundcloud ID to be hilarious? ;D ;D
lol, Tokai + Kemper = Temper + born in 59 = Temper59. :)
Me, a temper, no way!!! ;)
LOL. NO WAY! ;D
Jorden, where do you come up with this stuff? LOL I have a couple other friends I have to send that too! :)
Jon — Oct 27, 2011[quote author=charger link=1312399097/225#236 date=1319749081]Of course you can! You can split audio with a splitter out of the kemper, recombine it at the mixer with as many mics as you can, submix it down to a single bus, and send that back into the Kemper. Unless you were really really good with phase, it would sound like shit though.
Yes, I know all that but I was interested in if it could create a stereo profile.
Oh come, on, it's only $2000. How can you expect stereo at that price? ;)
Jon — Oct 27, 2011[quote author=charger link=1312399097/225#236 date=1319749081]Of course you can! You can split audio with a splitter out of the kemper, recombine it at the mixer with as many mics as you can, submix it down to a single bus, and send that back into the Kemper. Unless you were really really good with phase, it would sound like shit though.
Yes, I know all that but I was interested in if it could create a stereo profile.
If you're using two microphones then it is creating a stereo profile, our human ears are just not sensitive enough to hear the stereo effect...seriously, I can prove it, it says so in the manual. ;D
Did a few more clips today, used a Tele...my buddy Ryan on guitar.
Bad Cat clean Profile...Profiled in Alan Littens studio in Nashville, Tom Henby's amp.
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/bad-cat-1
Vintage Vox AC30...Peter Fischer's amp...used a clean Profile, messed around with the KPA gain knob.
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/ac30-2
http://soundcloud.com/temper59/ac30-1
That bad cat sounds fantastic to me !
Jon — Nov 02, 2011That bad cat sounds fantastic to me !
No doubt, an amazing amp.
Check the photo out on the clip.
lol, my buddy Ryan, loves taking guitar parts that everyone else is dumping or giving away and using the parts to put together his guitars.
That Tele is a massive mess, we laugh about it, notice the reverse Strat neck from an SX, the body is an awful green that he's busy sanding off, funny knobs, not sure what pickups are in it right now.
Miraculously he's wearing shoes, he usually walks around bare foot. :)
Very very cool guy, and has an unusual style of playing, kind of his own thing, I like it a lot, I need a lesson or two from him.
Jon — Nov 02, 2011That bad cat sounds fantastic to me !
Be careful, Jon, they'll lynch you.
In any event, a 1watt Z-Vex Nano amp will slaughter that Bad Cat. :)
Jon — Nov 02, 2011That bad cat sounds fantastic to me !
Yup. I like it too.
Nice tone on this video, using a new Profile of a Steavens Poundcake Amp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34D-iEtAW58
Lance — Nov 09, 2011Nice tone on this video, using a new Profile of a Steavens Poundcake Amp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34D-iEtAW58
Some excellent playing there too !