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DM — Jan 27, 2014I have been trying to play guitar a little bit every day.  Kind of Study like.  So, I have been listening to mostly Blues and some derivatives.  I had not posted here because I didn't want to post a bunch of stuff and not listen to your posts.  I'll get back at it. I'll keep looking in.

I have a better chance of listening when I'm working around here by myself.  I've had customers around lately so I haven't blasted them with my wandering music tastes.  

Here's an obscure one that I ran across.  Electric Mud.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYpwQsHb2_o


Missed this until Howie's comment.  Damn, this shit's pretty good!  :)
It certainly was interesting especially after reading the notes about how and why it came about.  Other than one song where his bends were pretty... "different" I suppose, I really liked it.  Pretty cool stuff.  
I've got to work around here this weekend to so I'll Try and get to The ELP, the Dire Straits, and the others that I've missed for a bit.

Howie, I read those notes about that Muddy album and did a little looking into that "psychedelic soul" band that backed Muddy for that album.  I thought it interesting that Minnie Riperton came from that band.  She had a hit in the seventies that I just hated.   At the time, I would have equated it to high pitched hog callin'.  ;D Suuuueeeeeyyyy!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0pwJ5PMDg

I still haven't warmed up to it. :D

That Muddy album was pretty cool.  There was one guitar line that started a song and I thought that one of the British Invasion guitarists  had referenced it pretty well.
Ok, I had to Back up a bit to even get close to ELP.  

That Hymn to Freedom was inspiring.  That's the kind of stuff that makes you want to play.

The Jesse Cook I listened to after it was posted.  The opening of that link reminded me of some meditation flute music that I can jive on occasionally.  I love the wobble, or bending of the tones of the Bansuri Flute.

Kind of Fucks me up. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lyYz19mEU

Of course while on that page I had to revisit Selma and the Boob vibrato. LOL  Listened to a few songs from Tito and Tarantula.

Listened to The Chopin  a la  Rubinstein.  Thats pretty good stuff.  I have always had a tough time with classical music, though, I find it more listenable these days.  I saw that 8 yr. old play.  That's just silly.

Listened to the first few songs of the Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby.

Listening to Bitches Brew now.

Stumbled on this in the YT ads and thought it Brilliant and worth posting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHV0LLvhXM
DM — Jan 31, 2014I've got to work around here this weekend to so I'll Try and get to The ELP, the Dire Straits, and the others that I've missed for a bit.

Howie, I read those notes about that Muddy album and did a little looking into that "psychedelic soul" band that backed Muddy for that album.  I thought it interesting that Minnie Riperton came from that band.  She had a hit in the seventies that I just hated.   At the time, I would have equated it to high pitched hog callin'.  ;D Suuuueeeeeyyyy!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0pwJ5PMDg

I still haven't warmed up to it. :D

That Muddy album was pretty cool.  There was one guitar line that started a song and I thought that one of the British Invasion guitarists  had referenced it pretty well.


But it was cool when Ellen Griswald did it in Vegas Vacation!   ;D
I'm actually listening to the ELP again.  :)

And, for the record Howie, from what I've heard, I think YOU are at least as good of a guitarist as Rick Wakeman!  :D
Listened to the Dire Straights this morning.  Much like other times, I don't "get" it.  I remember when GP did their poll years ago and the two top guitarists were Van Halen and Mark Knopfler.  I have heard a lot of his stuff and just don't see him being that great.  Nothing against him at all. Like some of their music, etc. just not that impressed with his playing.   

So then I go on too..... ICEHOUSE!   Craig, I knew the name and couldn't remember why.  When heard the first song, my reaction was "well that is kind of generic whimpy pop.  And then song #2 started and it hit me.  "Electric Blue."    Craig, I say this with all the love in my heart.   I worry about you sometimes!    ;D ;D   There are way to many things to do in this life, and this life is way too short to spend time listening to stuff like that!   LMAO.  

YMMV.  Consult your physician for erections lasting more than 4 hours.

And yes, I AM JOKING.  The whole point of this thread is to discover new things and or just to share what we like listening too, and why.   That said, some of the stuff Craigy is posting... I'm really afraid to as WHY!   :o :o  LMAO  

And Craig, thanks for the compliment.  I'm sure you mean it from the bottom of your heart, and I am humbled.  
Life's different when you listen to music you like and not just the stuff you're told to like you know.  ;)

Unfortunately, you don't even KNOW what's good and what's not.  Sad, very sad.  Probably too brainwashed by the kids living in their Mom's basement over at TGP...  :D
DreamTheaterRules — Jan 31, 2014Listened to the Dire Straights this morning.  Much like other times, I don't "get" it.  I remember when GP did their poll years ago and the two top guitarists were Van Halen and Mark Knopfler.  I have heard a lot of his stuff and just don't see him being that great.  Nothing against him at all. Like some of their music, etc. just not that impressed with his playing.   
 

Wow.  I guess that explains a lot.

If the goal of music or guitar playing is to be "impressive," I don't think you and I will agree on many guitar players.  This also explains a lot of the stuff you rave about...
I listened to the complete Bitches Brew and then I listened to the Sunday at the Village Vanguard - Bill Evans Trio.

Now I've never listened to very much jazz.  There was some pretty cool guitar licks on that Miles record.  The Bill Evans is very loose.  LOTS of freedom in that playing.  The Alice in Wonderland and All of You takes reminded me very much of the Schroeder playing on the Charlie Brown Specials.  Now I don't mean that as a joke, I mean that it seriously sounds like it.  The background music while they're wandering around doing what Peanuts do. LOL.  Very cool stuff.  I listened to the Waltz for Debby first, I was surprised in my reread of Chargers post to find that they were at the same place, different nights.  Totally different vibe.

I still haven't gotten to the ELP.  I think I'm hung up in the "D's"  ;D

It's first up tomorrow.  I think it's like Gilligan's three hour tour


:D
DM — Jan 31, 2014I listened to the complete Bitches Brew and then I listened to the Sunday at the Village Vanguard - Bill Evans Trio.

Now I've never listened to very much jazz.  There was some pretty cool guitar licks on that Miles record.  The Bill Evans is very loose.  LOTS of freedom in that playing.  The Alice in Wonderland and All of You takes reminded me very much of the Schroeder playing on the Charlie Brown Specials.  Now I don't mean that as a joke, I mean that it seriously sounds like it.  The background music while they're wandering around doing what Peanuts do. LOL.  Very cool stuff.  I listened to the Waltz for Debby first, I was surprised in my reread of Chargers post to find that they were at the same place, different nights.  Totally different vibe.

I still haven't gotten to the ELP.  I think I'm hung up in the "D's"  ;D

It's first up tomorrow.  I think it's like Gilligan's three hour tour


That's good Miles... the band has John McLaughlin on guitar, Wayne Shorter on soprano sax, and dual drummers and electric pianos (Chick Corea I believe and Joe Zawinul)... one of the drummers is always Jack DeJohnette, and the upright bass player is always Dave Holland, sometimes doubled with an electric bass player.  That's some serious heavyweight musicianship.
CraigBert — Jan 31, 2014

:D


It's not quite that simple... but yeah. There's a huge difference between being an impressive player and making great music. In my mind, any music that moves me overrides the skill or tools used to get there.  You wouldn't base your appreciation of a painting on how fast it was painted; it either hits you right in the gut, or it doesn't.
not listening to anything lately... but just want to say Knopfler, particularly on the self-titled Dire Staits album, is mindblowingly inspirational to me. that is one of my all time favorite works.
ironsheep — Jan 31, 2014not listening to anything lately... but just want to say Knopfler, particularly on the self-titled Dire Staits album, is mindblowingly inspirational to me. that is one of my all time favorite works.

Yeah it makes me want to reapproach guitar.  How do you practice space?
charger — Jan 31, 2014[quote author=CraigBert link=1386100196/300#310 date=1391206366]

:D


It's not quite that simple... but yeah. There's a huge difference between being an impressive player and making great music. In my mind, any music that moves me overrides the skill or tools used to get there.  You wouldn't base your appreciation of a painting on how fast it was painted; it either hits you right in the gut, or it doesn't.

'Zactly.
Charger, sometimes I wonder if you actually listen to anything I say, or if yu just already have made up your mind what I am saying regardless of what I meant.  I pretty clearly said that I did not consider him a great guitar player from what i had heard.  I also said that he was chosen as one of the two best in a particular poll.  I didn't say anything about speed.  I think Hendrix is one of the greatest players ever and I have never heard him play fast.  Ditto that for Beck.  And Trower.   Clearly it doesn't take technical genius to make me like someones playing.  Maybe I haven't heard enough of him.  Maybe i have heard the wrong songs to convice me otherwise, but i have never heard him play anything that impressed me from a tehcnical OR an emotional standpoint.  I find him very repetative on the tunes I have heard.  Uses the same or similar riffs alot.   So does SRV but when he does it, it impresses me with emotion.   If you have something I should listen too that might change my mind, bring it on.  Otherwise, I am just stating my opinion.
if you don't like knopfler based on Dire Straits or Brothers In Arms, you just don't like knopfler. nothing wrong with that - it's wonderful that there is so much music available to listen to that everyone can find things they like. I think he's amazing, inspiring and generally awesome but so what... heh. like what you like and don't worry about it - music is for enjoyment and there are as many ways of finding enjoyment in music as there are people.
I will listen some more.
This is my all time favourite knopfler track.  The sound quality of this recording is not brilliant.   To play with a delicate touch such as this in front of a live audience is something special in my opinion. Cranking distortion out at full blast is easy compared to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6uSGvy6nKDw#t=129


and another nice version with an orchestra this time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMwcGPjYAIk
There are a couple of tunes on Dire Straits where he plays absolutely clean.  You don't have to like him, I just think the choice of the words "not impressed" tells me you are looking at something different than what I do.  To me, he sings extensions of his vocal lines and the melody of the song with his guitar.  The incredible thing is his space.  His pauses are amazing.  Yes he uses a lot of the same licks... and a lot of different ones.  I still haven't mastered one of his licks-- I can play some of them, but like him? not gonna happen.  To me, it's a whole thing, he sounds like he really loves the songs and puts everything into them... including space, and restraint.  No one will ever accuse Knopfler of overplaying or showing off.


I made this for someone on the Watering Hole.  Seems to apply to your comment about Knopfler's space and pauses.  :)
I love some of Todd Rundgren's music.  Todd Rundgren has never impressed me as a guitar player.  Not saying he's bad at all, he's not.  I said "impressed."  I also said I LOVE some of his music.  Several of my all time favorite songs are by him.  The two things are not related, nor did I ever intend them to be.  I SAID, he was rated one of the best guitar players in the GP polls.  He was for several years surrounding his hey day.  I SAID that he never impressed me in the way the others in that poll did.  I SAID I didn't hear "guitar hero" type playing from him.  I said that what I had heard from him didn't seem that hard to play and I thought he was a bit repetitive.  Those are legit comments about his playing from what I have heard.  

Sheep gave me some things to listen to and I will listen to them today.  
DreamTheaterRules — Feb 03, 2014I said that what I had heard from him didn't seem that hard to play and I thought he was a bit repetitive.  Those are legit comments about his playing from what I have heard.  


I hear this a lot about Hendrix, too.  
I love his playing on Brothers in Arms too, and I think the songs are very strong as far as listenabilty goes, but really for me it's Dire Straits, Communique, and Making Movies, pretty much in order.  
I'm listening to Dire Straits - On Every Street right now.  This is one album that I missed.  I have heard most of DS catalog and find them quite enjoyable to listen to.  I think of MK as player like Gilmour.  Does his own thing with class and at a very high level.  Listening to Knopfler makes me want to hear more from him.  I dig the country influences, which may be what turns some off to him.  I liked the links that Jon posted.

I listened to the complete album from the ELP link on Saturday.  Yes it's a classic and all that, but it just doesn't do it for me.  It didn't when it was relevant, and it still doesn't.  Just not my thing.  Some of the best parts of that was when I'd fire up the table saw and it would drown out some of that keyboard.  I know a lot of the material from that album and can listen to it in small doses.  I remember a friend of mine in the mid-seventies was just freakin' nuts about ELP and I just couldn't get it.  I listened to the whole thing again thinking I might have missed something.  I don't think I did.  At the time I would prefer to listen to Yes, or Rush along the Prog Rock lines.

I listened to a bit of the Icehouse that was posted.  That is a little laid back for me, but I didn't get to hear a whole lot of it, we were heading out for dinner, so I had to bail on it.  They reminded me some of bands like Little River Band, Pure Prairie League and such.  Again, not my thing, but I gave it a whirl.  

I don't have anything new to contribute, been busy catching up on you guys' posts.
charger — Feb 03, 2014I love his playing on Brothers in Arms too, and I think the songs are very strong as far as listenabilty goes, but really for me it's Dire Straits, Communique, and Making Movies, pretty much in order.  


heh, it's funny, I had to go look up the track lists for Communique and Making Movies... and absolutely, some of my favorites on those! Where Do You Think You're Going... on the all time favorite song list for sure.

I got into Dire Straits from recorded cassette tapes... no info other than "Dire Straits Songs" on the labels - love the songs but didn't know which album was which. buying Money For Nothing to have some of them on CD didn't help that deficit. man, probably about time to fill out the collection... it's only been like 30 years. heh.
electric mud ftw! wow.

got a few minutes into ELP, had to stop. I'll put that on the "when you have a spare two hours" list... ELP's just never really clicked with me. every time I try to get into it I have this feeling it could devolve into this at any moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzpQHz2dGX8

so, that in mind... bach of course (the low end in this place is cool): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXsYgHGKjT0

anyways, here's another two hour link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdimyyD-ZQk


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ironsheep — Feb 04, 2014I have this feeling it could devolve into this at any moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzpQHz2dGX8


Holy Crap!!   I put $20 on Black ;D
Damn, Craig.  You hid this Machines of Loving Grace in that post a few pages back.  I spotted it yesterday on a rescan to check for stuff I may have missed.  Very good tunes for my workplace.  I'm a few songs into Concentration and like it well enough that I'll finish it out and then check out Gilt next, which says is a little more guitar oriented.  I thought it had a Cult or INXS vibe, so I dug a little deeper.  Good Stuff!!! 8-)
They're a guilty pleasure for me.  A similar band that's like them and NIN is Gravity Kills from the late 90's.  Both only made three CD's.
After listening to those, I listened to a song by Amish Rake Fight.  The band name just cracked me up.  The band is from the keyboard player from MOLG.  I liked the name better than the tunes, though, it wasn't bad, just not for me.

After that I did some searching for the soundtrack music to a Skinamax TV show called Banshee.  I dig the show, and a lot of times some of the tunes jump out at me.  All good tunes.  Here are a few full albums I thought worthy of posting.

Nils Lofgren - Old School - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdc4Qcyx81s&list=PL43FA27D33A04B135

Another good one was Anders Osborne - Peace - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLYJstSwc4

Here's another for the Boob pile.  Now she drops the Blatant F-Bomb, so don't play this in the daycare.  you can turn the sound down and have a peek though. LOL

Meg Myers - Monster - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQqZg5BisE
I didn't like that Meg Myers song (aside from the nipples) but I did like this one.  Something about it is very hooky even though it's not blatantly hooky. And I love the combination of distorted guitar and dark clean female vocal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GHT8NYffvY
I found this off one of DM's posts... it's very floydy.
Airbag - All Rights Removed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObS_DB27Un0
charger — Feb 03, 2014I love his playing on Brothers in Arms too, and I think the songs are very strong as far as listenabilty goes, but really for me it's Dire Straits, Communique, and Making Movies, pretty much in order.  




*Sigh...*  :(
Instant inspiration.  Yeah, this guy is trippy, and Japanese, and looks like a girl, and his singing in English is pretty hard to understand.  But totally inspiring on the guitar.

Miyavi - Futuristic Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ERgU6wDtOQ

Miyavi- Universe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag82YuWCLhY

the playing on universe is insanely cool.
yeah it's like he's playing slap bass. he must have tiny fingers
Just watched Universe - took me a second to realize he was playing a guitar!  I wonder what that technique would sound like with some serious distortion...  Heh.

His voice has a lot of potential too.  :)
Last night I had a lot of work to do (worked all night actually) so I got to listen to a bunch of things.  That said, I took a page out of Howie's book and dedicated the night to the letter "D!"  :D

I listened to Depswa, Decemberists and Death Cab For Cutie.  A pretty mixed bag, eh?  :)
I don't know Depswa but I listen to plenty of Decembrists and DCFC...

El Ten Eleven - My Only Swerving
This is "live" from a Guitar Center somewhere.  I love the photography on this, you really get a feel for the looping and intricacies, and the playing on dual instruments.  I love the idea of loops with live drums.  They're coming to town in a month so I'm excited to check them out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1SMAihtAEA
Relaxed tonight and played Freecell (solitaire) on my phone while listening to Vanessa Daou (every album except for her newest one).  Wonderfully erotic, subtly and sometimes blatantly.  :)

Here's a bunch of samples of her stuff.
This morning was started off with some complete new stuff for me even though the listed genre is "Rustic Psychedelia" - heh.  Some of their stuff sounds dated like old Pink Floyd or Genesis, but I'm ok with that.  Here's an example:

Stackridge - Red Squirrel

Supposedly, they were an influence on a band called Beautiful South (there's a sample of them in the General Forums that I put there for Hooky - funny song).  

I've got lots of work to do today so I'm sure I'll get to listen to a bunch of stuff today.  :)
Been listening to a Prog Band out of NYC called Jolly.

Love this song, "Firewell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePF-CcATGLA
Dearthian: — Feb 15, 2014Been listening to a Prog Band out of NYC called Jolly.

Love this song, "Firewell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePF-CcATGLA


Noice!  These guys will be getting some play time from me tonight while I get some work done.  :)
CraigBert — Feb 15, 2014[quote author=Dearthian: The Gear Pimp link=1386100196/325#343 date=1392429547]Been listening to a Prog Band out of NYC called Jolly.

Love this song, "Firewell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePF-CcATGLA


Noice!  These guys will be getting some play time from me tonight while I get some work done.  :)

Love this stuff!  Just listened to the the entire "Audio Guide to Happiness Disc One".  Will be ordering these from lasercd.com soon :)
Unfortunately it's not in high res, but the sound is pretty good...
I can pretty much guarantee this is the most insane thing you will ever see on Letterman.  Thomas Pridgen on drums alone is worth the price of admission.

The Mars Volta, Wax Simulacra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH11YFqMoB0

Every time I watch it I have to wonder how the hell they picked this song to play--on Letterman?
And this is an amazing mashup of "Fat Bottomed Girls" and "Come Together".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMGo7H5-a0A
charger — Feb 18, 2014And this is an amazing mashup of "Fat Bottomed Girls" and "Come Together".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMGo7H5-a0A


That was very well done!  I liked the similar guys below so much that I bought the album.  :)

Rock Sugar - Reimaginator
charger — Feb 18, 2014Unfortunately it's not in high res, but the sound is pretty good...
I can pretty much guarantee this is the most insane thing you will ever see on Letterman.  Thomas Pridgen on drums alone is worth the price of admission.

The Mars Volta, Wax Simulacra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH11YFqMoB0

Every time I watch it I have to wonder how the hell they picked this song to play--on Letterman?


Yikes!  Thomas Pridgen WAS the price of admission - he sounded great.  I couldn't last very long I thought Yoko had taken over the mic...  :o